Adlerdriver

Uhhh, if there are guys here who don't "get" the 727 or SO references, they're sure as hell not gonna get the "Al Haig" thing.

Albief15

Just be glad I let any of you play on my blog space....

I am in control here....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lMhN_HjrnFQ

Poeman

Thanks for all the info guys, keep it coming!

Meat Fighter

Just received the CJO. Everyone on the property was world class and I couldn't be more excited at this opportunity.

Before I put in my dream sheet for aircraft selection I'd like to solicit for some advice from the contributors here.

Situation: We have our third daughter due two weeks before indoc so mama is going to have three girls at home under the age of four. I will be commuting from the panhandle of Florida(military separation) and was curious to know if you were in my shoes which aircraft you would select at this point in time? I would be excited to fly any of the aircraft, but would prefer the fleet that allows the best seniority progression in order to allow me to hold a line and consolidate my time at home to the max extent possible.

Any and all advice is welcome.

*Hat tip to Albie; the information you have provided both on the forum and ECIC has been invaluable for this guy separating from the military at 14 years.



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Meat-

I'd recommend the Airbus or 767. Relatively quick training, wide body pay, & you will have many people coming in behind you. MD has longer training cycle, 777 you will only be reserve & long trips, & 757 is narrow body pay. Congrats & good luck.

MaydayMark

Here's my advice ... it's worth what you paid for it.

My instinctive reaction would be to stay home with the wife, family and new baby. I'd explain to FedEx that I have a "temporary family medical issue" at home and could I please start the next month. Please?

Everybody likes babies, maybe they would understand? But ... FedEx is famous for holding grudges. Would they agree to that? I have no idea. That might be a good question for Albie?

When the same thing happened to me many years ago (at a different airline) the Chief Pilot told me, "Mayday, if your wife and baby are in the hospital then their needs are being attended to and I don't see why you can't come to work." Yes, he really said that to which I replied, "Dan, you must have not understood the purpose for my call. This was just a courtesy call to tell you I was sick."

Brand new employee ... on probation ... that's a tough one. I hate to lose a really good job because I made the wrong decision. Are there other alternatives? Maybe her mother or her sister to help for a few weeks?

Good luck, I feel for you ...

MaydayMark

pinseeker

Meat,

I would recommend the 757 if seniority progression is your #1 goal. Everyone currently on the property is senior to you, and very few people bid from a higher paying seat to the lowest paying seat, so it is much more likely that people will move in on top of you if you bid a wide body plane than if you bid the 757. Rumor is that we will be having a system wide bid in the early spring. Lots of guys currently in the 757 looking to move to wide body pay.

KnightFlyer

Depends on mama to some extent. Is she fairly self-sufficient military wife?

I would not pass on getting on the seniority list asap. Go 757 MEM for fastest path to seniority. Enjoy the family time because it goes by faster than you think even though you're wiping their butts now. You'll make enough and the family is happier. In training if you need to take a pause due to "family events", they WILL work with you to adjust your training if needed. They want you done but they also want you to succeed.

The Oracle of PCB needs to jump as he used to commute from the panhandle before (if he didn't already give you gouge from previous Albie comm)

Daniel Larusso

As others have said, the 757 is likely your fastest progression to a line on paper. That said, the company hasn't been putting many(any?) newhires into the airplane for awhile, preferring to send them to the 767 instead. If they don't hire much into the 75 in the near term, it's not gonna help your relative seniority. The 76 has more senior people transitioning out of the MD and Airbus every bid, in addition to the recent hires move from the 75 to the 76. In the end, the Airbus may turn out to be the quickest to a line for you as they're hiring into it and there aren't many senior FO's transitioning into it.