Pilotpip

Isn't there a little stipulation in the ATP requirements about moral charater?

Hondata, this chip on your shoulder needs to go away. I'm sorry you've worked so hard and some people don't have to. This is the game called life. Suck it up, or shut up. Nobody cares that you're the victim. I dumped lavs for 5 years to pay for my flight training. You don't realize how bad you want to do something until you're covered in somebody else's ****. Life's not fair. Get over it.

PS: Everybody meets the same requirements when they apply. What you're really doing in an interview is letting them evaluate if they want you in the cockpit and if other pilots are going to tolerate you. I promise you that if you keep this **** poor attitude your career in aviation will be very short-lived.

PPS: When you decide to quit playing the victim, try using proper spelling and grammar. You'll be taken much more seriously in life and on these forums.

t-cart

This is an example of a good attitude! Good luck to you Squawk! FLY SAFE T.C.

Ewfflyer

It's also very fulfilling too!!!!!!!! Good luck with it, all the CFI's know exactly what you're feeling.

schwanm

At least this thread's achieved something positive, I really want to be a CFI now!

stinsonjr

Roger - get a little protective of the Ag-pilots.

Kind of a funny thing, most here have a dream job of flying for Airlines - and I think there would be some great experiences doing that...but AG or SEAT is the only thing I can think of that pay to fly large, high HP Taildraggers...which trump just about anything for me.

Squawk_5543

Let me tell you what makes it all worth while bud......I flew with a guy yesterday who must have been in his late 50s early 60s. It was his first flight EVER! When we got back down to mother earth he said "ok I'm hooked"

Thats what its all about.

Chris

Think about what this guy would be like if he actually did have money. He'd probably go get his bachelor's degree, without having to work during school, then go through ATP's 90 day pilot program (again, working is not a factor), shell out the astronomical $60000... yeah, that's right, last I heard they raised the price! After doing that, he would probably NOT flight instruct, but perhaps cut a check to Gulfstream instead and bypass the CFI route.

Sound about right?

Not all wealthy flight students have that attitude. In fact, most of the guys I know that had their ratings paid for them by mommy and daddy ended up becoming CFI's. In case you're wondering, my ratings were paid by ME, working on the ramp during the blazing Houston sun and getting rained on all day, everyday, during the summer months (like right now). Did I pay $60000 for my ratings? Hell no. After doing a little networking and spending the time to do research I found I could get all of my ratings for less than a third of that.

The sad truth is that this guy's attitude is not going to change unless a miracle occurs. I hope that he doesn't slip through the cracks and end up flying right seat with whoever is unfortunate enough to be paired with him.

Cheers.

jsfBoat

Wow! "Why can't we all just get along?" I'm looking forward to getting my CFI, I look at CFI's being preachers speakin the gospel of flight. It seems like they know everything, but that comes from HAVING to know your stuff.

Ewfflyer

You are mistaken in one thing. CFI's don't know everything, hell we might only know a few things, but we passed the CFI check-ride. We learn just as much(Well, I always think I learned more) as a CFI than the students. We do "Show you the path," but we're also picking up on the same things. It's a great thing for anyone that has the will and true understanding that part of it is for the TT, but also it's for the experience. I'm in my last week as a 135 freight/pax pilot, and let me tell you about some "experience," it definately surpasses the TT I gained while doing it.

the King

Seems like a good place for this:


The Airline Transport Pilot leaps tall buildings in a single bound, is more powerful than a 747, is faster than a speeding bullet, walks on water, and gives policy to God.

The Multi-engine Pilot leaps short buildings in a single bound, is more powerful than a 707, and is just as fast as a speeding bullet, walks on water if it is calm, and talks to God.

The Instrument Pilot leaps short buildings with a running start and favorable wind conditions, is almost as powerful as a Lear Jet, is almost as fast as a speeding bullet, walks on water in an indoor pool, and talks to God if special request is approved.

The Commercial Pilot barely clears a bamboo hut, loses Tug-of-War with twin-engine aircraft, can fire a speeding bullet, swims well and is occasionally addressed by God.

The Private Pilot makes high marks when trying to leap buildings, is run over by Piper Arrows, sometimes handles airplanes without inflicting self-injury, can dog-paddle, and talks to animals.

The soloed Student Pilot runs into buildings, recognizes a Cessna 172 two out of three times, is issued a parachute, can stay afloat if properly instructed, and talks to water.

The non-solo Student Pilot falls over door sills when trying to enter buildings, says "Look at the airplane!", wets himself with a water pistol, and mumbles to himself.

The Certified Flight Instructor lifts buildings and walks under them, kicks airplanes out of the hangar, catches speeding bullets with his teeth and chews them, and freezes water with a single glance.

The CFI is God.