why I DONT want to be a CFI
07-04-2007, 04:43 AM
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Hondata -
I don't have any intention of getting my CFI either but at the same time I'm not sour towards the rating. I'm not the best teacher in the world but believe me it would be a great backup if it was really needed. I can sympathize with you because I feel very bitter about my previous profession but I don't want to spoil it for others by expressing my bitterness aloud.
Look, just keep flying even if it's a couple hours a week. Build the time anyway you can and you'll get what you want. The main thing is to keep a positive attitude, keep your head up and press on. I wish you the best luck with your endeavours.
I don't have any intention of getting my CFI either but at the same time I'm not sour towards the rating. I'm not the best teacher in the world but believe me it would be a great backup if it was really needed. I can sympathize with you because I feel very bitter about my previous profession but I don't want to spoil it for others by expressing my bitterness aloud.
Look, just keep flying even if it's a couple hours a week. Build the time anyway you can and you'll get what you want. The main thing is to keep a positive attitude, keep your head up and press on. I wish you the best luck with your endeavours.
07-04-2007, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Hondata
Now its so expencive the only ones training are the rich who will never know what its like to pour sweat for 12 hours so you can get a one hour lesson in a broken down 152.
Originally Posted by Hondata
and yeah i dont like you people who just are handed the operunity to chase your dreams with out having to get in the trenches and earn it with your own sweat.
If you really don't want to teach that much, well, nowadays, you probably don't have to. I've seen Mesaba hire with 300TT/25ME. Colgan's published minimums are 500TT/80ME, but I'm sure they'll hire you with less, if they like you. It doesn't take much, these days. If you don't want to go to the regionals, I'm sure you'd be able to find some banner towing jobs out on the east coast. Parachuting usually requires some higher times for insurance, but you may get lucky if you know someone.
But I think I agree with others, your biggest obstacle will be cooling that attitude of yours.
07-04-2007, 07:30 AM
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My parents handed me the opportunity to chase my dreams because they worked hard to get out of poverty and wanted me to become more successful than they were. AND...I would do the same for my kids. So don't be mad at me because my parents did well....be mad at your parents for not making life easier for you...LOL what an @$$ hole!!!
07-04-2007, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by LeoSV
And being a CFI teaches you alot of things that you don't learn from being a student. If you gain 700 hrs being a CFI, you will be more experienced than most of these knuckle heads in the right seat of the regionals nowadays. But with the way you sound, you would be a terrible CFI, just like you said. just go crop dust for a while. you will earn the same that you do digging ditches and you will build some time.
07-04-2007, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainTeezy
My parents handed me the opportunity to chase my dreams because they worked hard to get out of poverty and wanted me to become more successful than they were. AND...I would do the same for my kids. So don't be mad at me because my parents did well....be mad at your parents for not making life easier for you...LOL what an @$$ hole!!!
07-04-2007, 08:49 AM
#16
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Originally Posted by stinsonjr
Definately think he shouldn't be a CFI. The crop duster remark ("you will earn the same as digging ditches") is innaccurate. Crop dusters are pretty well paid, and I think there is a mis-informed notion that they are not skilled. In fact, I would out the pure flying skills of a crop duster against that of airline pilots - they absolutely know how to fly - and actually manipulate the controls of an aircraft to make it do what they want, as opposed to monitoring an auto-pilot.
07-04-2007, 09:10 AM
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Guys don't worry about it, this attitude comes through loud and clear in the interview setting.
The probe is generally referred to as Industry Motivation and there are many many ways to ask the same question. Applicants who project that they are "too good" or "don't have the aptitude" for a particular aviation job generally do poorly in other areas of the interview.
In this job market if guy or girl walks into an interview without CFI time I'd want to know why. When you start digging in an interview setting, personality traits rise to the surface making it very easy for an interview team to accurately access an applicant.
The probe is generally referred to as Industry Motivation and there are many many ways to ask the same question. Applicants who project that they are "too good" or "don't have the aptitude" for a particular aviation job generally do poorly in other areas of the interview.
In this job market if guy or girl walks into an interview without CFI time I'd want to know why. When you start digging in an interview setting, personality traits rise to the surface making it very easy for an interview team to accurately access an applicant.
07-04-2007, 12:58 PM
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It’s not like I hate CFI's, it’s that I don’t see the inexperienced teaching the inexperienced as a good idea. When I get taught it’s the old pilots with experience that should be the ones in the right seat.
And it happens again, I say I don’t want to CFI and every old guy immediately starts to yell and call me a young idiot for not doing it.
And as far as my "bad attitude." it probably from my school experience, at college I couldn't afford to fly, so being in the flight tech program kind of was a **** experience for me. I drove the oldest car by 7 years (91 Toyota truck), everyone else drive Audi’s BMW's and Acura's, and I was probably the only one who knew how to fix their own vehicle. Also I worked construction for 2 years to afford to be there. Everyone else would just talk about how nice their dad was for getting them he new car and paying the 20k a year to fly. And I was the one who got looked down on for not being able to get my ratings and direct hire like all of them. So it’s you judgmental jerks who cause my "bad attitude"
And it happens again, I say I don’t want to CFI and every old guy immediately starts to yell and call me a young idiot for not doing it.
And as far as my "bad attitude." it probably from my school experience, at college I couldn't afford to fly, so being in the flight tech program kind of was a **** experience for me. I drove the oldest car by 7 years (91 Toyota truck), everyone else drive Audi’s BMW's and Acura's, and I was probably the only one who knew how to fix their own vehicle. Also I worked construction for 2 years to afford to be there. Everyone else would just talk about how nice their dad was for getting them he new car and paying the 20k a year to fly. And I was the one who got looked down on for not being able to get my ratings and direct hire like all of them. So it’s you judgmental jerks who cause my "bad attitude"
Last edited by Hondata; 07-04-2007 at 12:59 PM. Reason: bad grammer
07-04-2007, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondata
It’s not like I hate CFI's, it’s that I don’t see the inexperienced teaching the inexperienced as a good idea. When I get taught it’s the old pilots with experience that should be the ones in the right seat.
And it happens again, I say I don’t want to CFI and every old guy immediately starts to yell and call me a young idiot for not doing it.
And as far as my "bad attitude." it probably from my school experience, at college I couldn't afford to fly, so being in the flight tech program kind of was a **** experience for me. I drove the oldest car by 7 years (91 Toyota truck), everyone else drive Audi’s BMW's and Acura's, and I was probably the only one who knew how to fix their own vehicle. Also I worked construction for 2 years to afford to be there. Everyone else would just talk about how nice their dad was for getting them he new car and paying the 20k a year to fly. And I was the one who got looked down on for not being able to get my ratings and direct hire like all of them. So it’s you judgmental jerks who cause my "bad attitude"
And it happens again, I say I don’t want to CFI and every old guy immediately starts to yell and call me a young idiot for not doing it.
And as far as my "bad attitude." it probably from my school experience, at college I couldn't afford to fly, so being in the flight tech program kind of was a **** experience for me. I drove the oldest car by 7 years (91 Toyota truck), everyone else drive Audi’s BMW's and Acura's, and I was probably the only one who knew how to fix their own vehicle. Also I worked construction for 2 years to afford to be there. Everyone else would just talk about how nice their dad was for getting them he new car and paying the 20k a year to fly. And I was the one who got looked down on for not being able to get my ratings and direct hire like all of them. So it’s you judgmental jerks who cause my "bad attitude"
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