When you get your private you won't know sh@# when you get your instrument you won't know Sh@# when you get your commercial you won't know Sh@#. You not only learn how to fly as a CFI but you also learn how to deal with all the strange people airports and airplanes seem to attract thoses are the same people who you will fly with in the world of 121.

 

I guess i am the unofficial rep. from the crop dusting world.Sorry Hondawhatever , YOU HAVE A **** POOR ATTITUDE! WE DONT WANT YOUWith that attitude. I'll bet the majority of folks here payed or are still paying for all their training. I dont fault you at all for not wanting to be a CFI, You just come across as having a bad attitude towards them. I dont think you will be able to realize your potential as a flyer if you dont drop some of your attitude. Best of luck to you! FLY SAFE T.C.

 

I've never really seen Jenn PO'ed. I'm pretty sure that's not a good thing for Hondata. Amusing, but not really good for him...

 

Well I'm not really PO'ed. I like to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. I'm just a little ticked that someone is going to come on to a public aviation forum and talk crap about a group of people that I have so much respect for...and then really lose his cool and talk even more smack when someone points him out. He's not the only person in the world who's had to bust their butt to get where they are. If he has a lot of time on his hands, as he pointed out, then why not add on a second job that is used strictly for flight lessons? We all have to make sacrifices...that's what we do to achieve our dreams. It's a hard road, and it's not always fun...but the end rewards pays off...and it makes you feel even more proud. People will respect you more for hard work and dedication then just sitting back and whining like he's doing. I just hate seeing people do that...because it's crap.

I've had the honor of giving many of motivational speeches to high school, middle school, civil air patrol, and even pre-medical students. I have worked my freakin' butt off to get where I am and it just irritates me to no end to see people sit there and say life isn't fair. Life has never been 'fair' but it's also what you make of it. Hard work pays off. My father made less than 20K a year...raised me, and took care of his mother who was very sick. I give him every ounce of credit I could possibly give a man. He couldn't help me pay for college, though I know if he could he absolutely would have. I was one of those kids who had to get a job just to help pay the rent, but you know what? That's what you do for those you love, and to help make ends meet. I don't complain about that for a second. I'd do it all over again in a heartbeat, with no regrets. It's made me a much better person. No, life isn't fair. But...you can make it worth so much more by having a simple positive attitude. I spent a year in Africa as a missionary...and I'll tell you, if you went there for a whole day...you'd have a much different idea as to what's fair in life. Imagine not having enough food for yourself, let alone your children...because you were born into a region of the world that just isn't capable of providing what's needed to sustain life. That isn't fair. I'm already planning another trip to Nigeria later this year, my own health permitting. Imagine living in the middle east, or another third world war torn country...where you can't live without the fear of being killed. That isn't fair.

Your life is very much fair. If you don't wanna CFI, fine don't CFI. This is America, you can do anything you want to do. Crop dust, banner tow, fly skydivers...but don't sit there and tell a group of instructors who absolutely love what they do that there's something wrong with a young instructor teaching because he's 'inexperienced.' If this were the case...there'd be no instructors. We all start out somewhere...even the older ones.

Still...have fun flying, and stay safe out there.

Okay, maybe I'm little PO'ed. :-D

 

Let me preface my post by saying I read only the original post and not the remaining 42 others, so I may be repeating what others have said.

Every so often (and it seems to get alarmingly more frequent) someone comes to this board and rants about something. This rant appears to be a disjointed discourse on why Hondata doesn't want to be a CFI and would like to go straight into a flying job. Well, I say that if you have the aptitude to do that, then that's what you should do! Whether any flying outfit will hire you is a different matter.

You remind me a lot of this young lawyer who wanted to volunteer at my law firm. Back then, my clients were all low income or vulnerable. It was obvious this young man was more interested in being in-house counsel or some corporate law type. I gave him plenty of chances until the day he described our clients in a most disparaging way. I did not hesitate to kick him out the door. My only regret was that I taught him a lot about evidence, civil procedure, and trial skills. He didn't belong in legal services.

My CFI gave up a good non-aviation career because he loved to fly and loved to teach. If you don't want to go the CFI route, don't. Just try to refrain from making any more disparaging remarks. It doesn't reflect well on yourself.

 

He's added more than his 2 cents since then too. I tried standing up for him, but it just got ugly. I'm just going to say since he's new to APC, and the fact that most text doesn't really have true "emotion" attached, just what one person interprets it as being can very well be put down as something different, he's taken most replies as an attack. I've seen this in every forum I'm a member on. I guess that's why it's good to just feel things out or let your emotions take a back seat sometimes. Anyways, hondata, if you do happen to return. Take a chill pill. People were initially trying to help you. Your initial statement really rubbed several people(including myself) the wrong way. Start over and try again. Maybe the mods will close/delete this if you discuss it with them.(This is my last attempt at standing up for you btw, good luck)

 

Sorry but had to change the subject a little towards the positive side of CFI-ing. I just picked up my first instrument rating/multi rating student which I will get to train from start to finish. Since I started instructing I've really only been doing miscellaneous training here and there but haven't had my own dedicated students. I'm pretty excited about it....at the same time nervous. It's always the first few sign offs that you want to make sure you get right

 

To this day I haven't done anything that felt as great (and frightening) as sending that first student up for their solo.

 

Good luck Squawk... Make sure the time is right...and when your comfortable let 'em go. There's no greater feelin'.

 

I am sure Honda will learn with time that pursuing a CFI certificate is valuable in many ways. I can't believe what I have learned in the past 6 months of instructing! From the heart pounding moments to the gratifying and proud feeling of seeing your student reach his/her goals. The knowledge that has been reinforced through teaching, the skills that have been polished through my demonstrations and evaluations has also been extremely motivating for my own future goals. With Honda's attitude I cant see him making it past an airline interview simply because of his lack of dedication to the profession (no CFI) and display of immaturity. Digging ditches is hard work for sure but it's your choice as well. I joined the Marines and dug plenty of ditches too, thats one way to earn some money for training. You might want to consider it also. It will help you develop a better attitude towards teamwork and leadership( something that defines a good FO or Capt.) We all had to find a way to pay for our education. And because some didnt have to pay doesn't mean they should be singled out as people that do not or did not work hard. I think it is great that there are parents out there that are willing to help their kids achieve their dreams. My parents helped with what they could afford and I took the rest upon myeslf.
We all have sad stories to tell, some more sad than others, but where there is a will there is a way. This is just my opinion, but anyone who truly loves aviation and has a passion for it would love nothing more than to share it with other's that have the desire to learn. And I am not saying everyone should instruct either. Those that know they would not make a good instructor are commended for their honesty to themselves and their potential students. So Honda, if you dont want to instruct, fine. Just have a better attitude towards aviation and the people around you will always be willing to help. Don't be the type that just wants to wear the uniform. We had some of those types in the Marines and on my football team. They are the ones with the potential to get hurt for lack of heart and preparedness. Same applies to aviation! Good luck.