planecrazyjenn

Hey...your not a young idiot for not wanting to CFI. No ones yelling at you for that, people are harping on you because of the **** poor attitude. Your correct, not everyone makes good CFI's. As for the inexperienced teaching the inexperienced...how do you gain experience without experience? Unless you are a CFI you will never know how much teaching people greatly improved your flying and knowledge skills. The best CFI I ever had was for my multi...he was a fresh new CFI, but he took what he did very seriously. He knew his stuff inside and out...sure there was a lot for him to learn. But, he went into it with a positive attitude...and if he didn't know something - he admited it and looked it up. It's a win-win situation for everyone. One of the worst CFI's I had was a retired airline pilot. He taught me a lot of bad habits that I learned real quick weren't a good idea. Not all young pilots are bad, and not all old pilots are great.

Not everyone wants to instruct...it's not for everyone. However, your attitude sucks...period. Not everyone has a father who paid their way through school. My parents didn't put out a single penny towards my flight or college education...did I let that stop me? No. Was it a royal pain in the butt? Of course it is/was. I still managed to complete a bachelors and professional school...as well as earn all of my flight certificates/ratings. It's by far the hardest thing I've ever done in my entire life, and will be paying for it for years to come. However, I know that I earned it. I worked the two jobs during school, busted my a** during class to earn scholarships and grants, and look out the loans that I needed to...all while having to take care of the husband/home life as well. Fortunately I didn't have to take out as much as some, because I did earn scholarships...but that took a lot of hard work. There are many people on this board who had to work to get where they are...and whether daddy wrote out the check, or they had to sweat for their ratings (as some have already mentioned) most regional pilots still start out on the same sucky pay.

So, it's really your choice as to whether or not you want to instruct. For many, it's the most rewarding type of flying you can do. No one should look down on you for not wanting to instruct...but you really do need to clean up your attitude because a majority of the pilots you fly with will have some form of instruction under their belt.

If you really sit back and look at the grand scheme of things, you really shouldn't complain. Like one other person mentioned, airlines are hiring people with rediculously low amounts of times (250TT posted at some). What does this mean? This means that you can get away without having to instruct. Just not long ago, mins were triple that...and you had to spend a year or so instructing. No matter where you went to school, you still had to endure that time as an instructing dreaming about the day you get the call to a regional interview. I, personally, didn't have to go through that...as I'm not a professional pilot...nor do I really strive to me. I just enjoy the joy of flying and love flying for fun.

Be lucky you had a car in college...I knew kids who just couldn't afford it. They biked everywhere to save money. Pilots aren't the only profession who have rich daddies. Medicine is the same way. Some people get the full ride through, while others have to eat mac & cheese just to survive.

Best of luck in getting where you want to be, even if you choose the non-instructing route. It's very possible, and there are many other rewarding opportunities taking the non-instructing route. You really do need to change your attitude though...it's very bitter, and will only make you look even worse.

Fly safe...
"judgmental jerk"

Hondata

my attitude is rather angry but I've put up with a lot of **** from my "peers" to get this far and i dont see it as "fair" (if there is such a thing) that I get no credit for my hard work in compairison to their "walk the line their dad set out for them" career path

oldveedubs

what do you think life is like buddy?

rickair7777

Crop dusting requires skills, but they almost unrelated to the skills routinely used corporate and airline pilots. Not better or worse, just different...professional transport flying is more about information transfer and analysis and IFR operations, and less about stick-and-rudder skills.

Sprayers make about as much as regional airline captains, but it's harder to get into spraying...it has to be something you want to do, and an agricultural background is almost required. It's mostly farm boys who want to stay with what they know and get to fly too.

rickair7777

No one can tell you what's right or wrong for you, but I will caution you that your attitude does seem to signal an aptitude for single-pilot freight, survey, patrol, or wildlife tracking, NOT airline or corporate flying.

Most professional turbine airplanes use two pilots, and they both have to be amenable to working together. Also as a capatin, you will be acting as a CFI with the newer FO's whether you like it or not...if you just act like a grumpy old SOB with the newbies you will intimidate them thereby taking them out of the decision and backup loop. Guess what...you're now flying single pilot again! Actually the airlines developed CRM concepts for exactly this reason...and they have gotten darn good at weeding out applicants who aren't CRM-compatible.

Hondata

why do you think i hate students, i just have no desire to tell anyone anthing when i dont have any real experience, if i get to be a captian for an airline, ill probably have figured things out and then i fell ill be qualified to tell someone something, and secondly an FO has his own experience. Im not their sole source of infomation

Slice

Ok, now you're just whining. Your a 'commercial student', so what? I fly 767's and F-16's, so what? Why should you or anyone else on this board, in the industry, or trying to get into the industry get a pat on the back for flying airplanes? Life isn't fair(learn that young and you'll be happier throughout life) but if you are getting flight training you're still probably more fortunate than most. Absolutely pathetic.

Hondata

seriously go **** yourself, i have no respect for you what so ever

the King

Seriously, your generalizations are pure crap. I take offense to your remarks. You say everyone looks down on you for not wanting the CFI. I say they look down on you because you disparage a worthwhile career they have fond memories of. I'm totally fine with someone not wanting to instruct. That's a much better option than doing it just to build time. A CFI is paid to teach and train, not build time. Logging hours is a side benefit.

As to why I take offense to your remarks, I break every generalization you've made, but what's more, I'm that CFI you look down on. I've seen students like this, and they aren't well thought of among instructors young and old. They border on abusive, speak beyond their level of knowledge. Yes, those statements are incendiary. I use that to make a point about generalizations. I don't believe that's always the case. But you don't want to get lumped in with the people who are like that, do you? In the end you must see that while you criticize others who discourage your choice, you are doing the same to them. Is it any wonder this argument pops up around you?

I wish you the best of luck. Its true that you no longer have to dread how you will build time for a better job. I hope you find something you love and stick to it. I only ask that you not criticize others who must walk a different road to end up in the same place.

Slice

Wow, that hurts.