Takeoff briefing for multi-engine aircraft
11-08-2012 | 07:05 AM
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From: Didactic Synthetic Aviation Experience Provider
Obviously, sarcastic here but the psychology is to try and make these things climb when in many cases they won't - even with "forward, forward, forward, flaps up, gear up, identify, verify, feather, secure". The best option in a lot of accidents would have been retard the good one and make a controlled descent rather than the stall/spin, Vmc roll while trying to climb.
That brings up the other aspect of "standard briefings": Don't make it just a rote exercise where you're saying the same things - be certain that what you're briefing is what you really anticipate doing! Obviously based upon the circumstances, you may need to modify the plan, but be thoughtful about what you're briefing.
11-08-2012 | 07:40 AM
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From: Square root of the variance and average of the variation
One of the best pieces of advice I had while checking out in a 421 with a grizzly old MEI - "You know why this plane has two engines son..."
I did not know where this was going so I said, "no sir, I don't."
"Because all this $hit won't fly on one," was the response.
I did not know where this was going so I said, "no sir, I don't."
"Because all this $hit won't fly on one," was the response.
11-08-2012 | 01:20 PM
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From: FAA 'Flight Check'
That's exactly the same briefing I make when there's another pilot in the seat next to me - even if it's in a 152.
I think one important part of the safety briefing is to determine who is PIC and will ultimately control the aircraft during an emergency. That way there's no wrestling and there's also a pilot ready and able to back you up on the checklists.
CRM shouldn't only exist in multi crew ops.
Just a thought..
I think one important part of the safety briefing is to determine who is PIC and will ultimately control the aircraft during an emergency. That way there's no wrestling and there's also a pilot ready and able to back you up on the checklists.
CRM shouldn't only exist in multi crew ops.
Just a thought..
Both the FAA and the military push the concept on single pilot/single seat CRM.
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11-08-2012 | 05:48 PM
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From: CRJ FO
Oh and another piece of advice... If you are taking off into IMC have the approach for the active runway loaded in case you lose an engine at 1,000ft... Always brief what you will do if an emergency occurs for the given airport/conditions.
11-20-2012 | 03:35 PM
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From: CFI Student...anyone have anything to eat?
PAX brief should be same, with exception of safety specifics of a/c but include takeoff brief that includes Runway length, accel/stop distance, If engine fails before V1 throttles idle, smoothly apply breaks. (If runway length permits) If in the air but gear is down, apply full flaps, throttles idle, land and apply brakes. If gear is in transition, shutdown and feather dead engine, make standard traffic and land.
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