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Old 11-08-2012, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation View Post
Obviously, sarcastic here but the psychology is to try and make these things climb when in many cases they won't - even with "forward, forward, forward, flaps up, gear up, identify, verify, feather, secure". The best option in a lot of accidents would have been retard the good one and make a controlled descent rather than the stall/spin, Vmc roll while trying to climb.
Amen - I used to fly a C-411, an abysmal performer at best. That was actually very close to what the standard briefing was - if the airplane wasn't completely cleaned up and flying, we were going to pull the good engine back and land, using limited thrust on the good one to try and miss anything we really needed to avoid.

That brings up the other aspect of "standard briefings": Don't make it just a rote exercise where you're saying the same things - be certain that what you're briefing is what you really anticipate doing! Obviously based upon the circumstances, you may need to modify the plan, but be thoughtful about what you're briefing.
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by bcrosier View Post
Amen - I used to fly a C-411, an abysmal performer at best.
One of the best pieces of advice I had while checking out in a 421 with a grizzly old MEI - "You know why this plane has two engines son..."

I did not know where this was going so I said, "no sir, I don't."

"Because all this $hit won't fly on one," was the response.
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Old 11-08-2012, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by mikearuba View Post
That's exactly the same briefing I make when there's another pilot in the seat next to me - even if it's in a 152.

I think one important part of the safety briefing is to determine who is PIC and will ultimately control the aircraft during an emergency. That way there's no wrestling and there's also a pilot ready and able to back you up on the checklists.

CRM shouldn't only exist in multi crew ops.

Just a thought..
It doesn't.
Both the FAA and the military push the concept on single pilot/single seat CRM.

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Oh and another piece of advice... If you are taking off into IMC have the approach for the active runway loaded in case you lose an engine at 1,000ft... Always brief what you will do if an emergency occurs for the given airport/conditions.
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Old 11-20-2012, 03:35 PM
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PAX brief should be same, with exception of safety specifics of a/c but include takeoff brief that includes Runway length, accel/stop distance, If engine fails before V1 throttles idle, smoothly apply breaks. (If runway length permits) If in the air but gear is down, apply full flaps, throttles idle, land and apply brakes. If gear is in transition, shutdown and feather dead engine, make standard traffic and land.
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