featheredprop

Just a point of information ....a few years ago you needed 200 multi to get a regional job . Unless you were an mei imagine paying to get 200 multi .
Its all relative but unfortunately a terrible accident caused an overreaction by politicians and now the same politicians are reacting to a nut shooting children in a school . This is all a placebo to make the public feel safe .

bcrosier

Yeah, that's what they're all about. Keep talking that way and you'll be up for a "random" test. OK, I'm being a bit harsh there - I know a number of local FAA guys and they are interested in safety, but when you move it to the level where the rules actually get made and it becomes a lot more smoke, mirrors, and politics.

I think 500 is about right for VFR.

I disagree. I think, 750 with requisite instrument and X-C time could be plausible, certainly 1000 would be plenty.

Yeah, that would be me - the new guy with just shy of 9000 hours, half a dozen type ratings, almost 20 years of 135 and 121 international experience. Now if I could just figure out how to get this door open...

JohnBurke

Irrelevant. The FAA's charter is a function of an act of congress. What individuals do, want, or how they behave, is not relevant.

The FAA does not exist to cater to you or anyone else in crafting the regulations to help you progress in your career. It's your problem, not the FAA's.

Then all you need to do is campaign to change the regulation, then make it happen.

Work a little harder. You'll get it.

For many years prior to that, 2,500 was barely competitive for many of those jobs. The brief period of 250 and 300 hour wonders was a temporary low, and many here are too young to remember otherwise.

You're not entitled to a job. You may actually have to earn a little more experience to get there. Not a big deal.

727gm

And in addition, they had people paying $10000 to buy the job, and all one got was a right-seat check (no type-rating), AND it was in a small turboprop....

No regional jets except Comair....regional jets were B727/737/DC-9/Fokker/Bae146 flown on REAL salaries)

atpwannabe

The more I think about this, the more sense that it makes. Part 135 flying can be used as an industry wide platform or springboard to the Regionals. JMO though.



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N1CEandS1MPLE

If we say goodbye to that rule, then many of us say goodbye to our future airline careers. The competition would grow exponentially.

bcrosier

I'm sort of puzzled as to why you aren't able to comprehend what I've written. I'm well past the point of any of this being relevant to my career - I'm not quite certain why you aren't picking up on that. I personally have other issues to address beyond this to address.

If safety is the only issue you feel should have a bearing on the issue, then YOU should be busy campaigning to raise the minimums to 5000TT, 2000XC, and 500 instrument.

I'm trying to approach you with a bit of humor. If I were to describe how you are coming across it would be a violation of the TOS on here. I'm not impressed.

Congratulations, you've just reposted what I already stated 13 posts ago.

I don't recall saying I thought I or anyone else was entitled to a job. Given my background, exactly what additional experience do you feel I should "earn" to "get there?"

What I know is that there is by regulatory definition in most other areas a less demanding set of criteria for operations under Part 135 vs. 121. If you doubt me, read through both parts and tell me which places more demands on the operator in general. Given that, I find the fact that the requirement to have only 250 hours less for a 135 PIC vs. a 121 PIC to not be reasonable, nor logical. Before you start inflating puffing yourself up again, yes - I realize there are darn few 121 PIC's around with 1501 hours; as you so quaintly put it, "Irrelevant." If the FAA's duty is simply to maximize safety, then either regulatory requirements for 121 PIC should be drastically increased (which is a possibility) or 135 should be lower.

rickair7777

But if you made it to a major, you were set for life. Back then it was a reasonable calculated risk to pay a lot of dues for a shot at the brass ring.

Problem is the brass ring is now gone, or at least there are only a tiny handful left.

It's hard to justify a lot of money and sacrifice to get a job that pays less than fast-food and doesn't have a remote hope of any kind of of stability.

Undaunted

First off, thanks for your service to our Country.

Our current job market is really competitive. I have almost 8,000 hours, 5 type ratings, 1,500+ TPIC and I don't get called for every interview. Don't take this the wrong way, but did you think you would get an interview every time?

JamesNoBrakes

Do you realize a lot of 135 is carrying passengers IFR?