They used to (and still kind of do) hire people outside of their programs. Now, the problem is that they have guaranteed CFI jobs to a lot of the people in their programs and those people need to get 1500 hours. So instead of getting their commercial CFI at 250 hours, and then instructing for another 200-400 hours and getting hired by an airline, their instructors are needing 1250+ hours to meet ATP mins.

If you are a two year CFI and can teach CFI and have a decent amount of multi - espeically PA-44 time, then you'd have a fair shot. But I'd say the chances are low for getting hired as a new CFI.

About 2.5 years ago when I did my CFI there, I wanted to work for them in Altanta, and they didn't have any openings in Atlanta. And at about the same time, they lowered the monthly retainer from $1500 to $750, and supposedly upped the bonuses and hourly pay. I decided the pay was too crappy to go to one of their other locations.

Then I tried to do the part 61 thing in Atlanta, and the market for part 61 CFI's is terrible there. I was lucky to get 15 hours of flight time and maybe 20-25 billable hours per month. Then I got hired by a university and moved away from ATL (current job). At my current job, the pay is salaried (but not great by any means), and the flight time is only 350-400 hours per year, and there is almost no multi to be had, so I tried to get on at ATP about a year ago just to build time faster and get multi time, but they told me at that time they weren't hiring anyone outside of ATP that isn't a two year CFI. Now that I'm qualified to teach initial CFI's I might give going to ATP another try, because I've gotten a whopping 14.7 hours of multi in the past two years at my current job. ATP also pays the 2 year CFI's a decent salary and it would definitely be a raise. But they treat their CFI's like crap, and teaching their CFI school seems like it would be especially stressful.

 

Now, how would telling you what flight school I worked for make you believe me? If you don't believe what I am saying now, then you'll never believe me even if I photocopied pay stubs and logbooks. People don't like being proven wrong. That particular flight school isn't hiring right now because of the 1500 hour rule and wouldn't help him anyways; it isn't in Atlanta.

 

I was in the same boat as you about a year ago. 0 dual given, and where I lived there were no CFI jobs to speak of. I had to relocate.

A few others above have mentioned that. Sometimes that's the name of he game in aviation. It was stressful but now I have an excellent CFI job and I am happy I made the move.

You are close to Florida there are lots of flight schools there you may be surprised how many more options you have if you don't limit your location

ATP may hire you but only stay there long enough to get some dual given and maybe some muti. with more competitive cfi hours find another job that will treat you right (there are CFI jobs that will).

 

Getting time in the seminole will be limited due to the new program. The private instrument track does all of the instrument training in the cessna, versus the old program where you would do your instrument training in the seminole. Instructors are seeing a change in multi time at atp.

You do get to fly a lot though, can live on the pay (not like a rock star), but you will be sent where you are needed until you prove your self and get your seniority and the slot opens up to where you want to go.

good luck.

 

RYY location is already open from what I can tell.

So you had no luck in the ATL area as recently as 4 months ago?

 

What about AmericanFlyers?

I know they don't really have multis, definitely not in the atl area, but at least I can go from zero dual given to something.

 

Thats correct, however, a friend got hired at Falcon Aviation down in Peachtree City when i was already in Texas. It's part 141.. You could give em a try.

 

Falcon aviation is great place, pretty decent fleet of diamonds and Chinese students to fill your logbook. They have multiple branches in FFC, CCO and I believe PDK is still there as well.

 

Falcon would be awesome. Chinese student contracts are a big plus, too, good to know!