Thoughts on iPad for VFR Flight...
09-07-2014 | 05:58 AM
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Yeah until you get to an airport that ONLY has a NDB/DME... But you don't need that ancient stuff do ya?
Or when the DME is on MEL and the FO can't figure out what a "crossing radial" is.
Relying on easy mode all the time because it's always there is not necessarily a recipe for disaster, but it is a recipe for bad airmanship.
Or when the DME is on MEL and the FO can't figure out what a "crossing radial" is.
Relying on easy mode all the time because it's always there is not necessarily a recipe for disaster, but it is a recipe for bad airmanship.
It is the policy of the faa to decommission them as this inevitably happens to the rest of them. They are too expensive to fix. I guess enjoy them for the next few years?
09-07-2014 | 06:20 AM
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From: FAA 'Flight Check'
As for an airport with ONLY an NDB approach; sometimes it is allowed to use GPS 'in lieu of' certain navigational facilities. Here is an example where the LOM is OTS but a GPS waypoint could be used 'in lieu of':
!ICT 04/405 IDP NAV ILS RWY 35 JEFFE LOM OUT OF SERVICE 1404282013-PERM
!FDC 4/8367 IDP IAP INDEPENDENCE MUNI, INDEPENDENCE, KS. ILS OR LOC RWY 35, AMDT 1B... S-LOC 35: DME REQUIRED EXCEPT FOR AIRCRAFT EQUIPPED WITH SUITABLE RNAV SYSTEM WITH GPS, JEFFE (ID) LOM OTS. 1404251249-1504241249EST
09-07-2014 | 04:01 PM
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From: FAA 'Flight Check'
Here are a few articles on the process:
FAA Explains Instrument Approach Procedure Shutdowns | Aviation International News
So long to 216 NDB approach procedures - AOPA
As you can see from the dates on the articles, this has been an ongoing process over years and will continue so.
FAA Explains Instrument Approach Procedure Shutdowns | Aviation International News
So long to 216 NDB approach procedures - AOPA
As you can see from the dates on the articles, this has been an ongoing process over years and will continue so.
09-07-2014 | 05:00 PM
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Probably because the ADF offers a lot of fertile ground for exam questions. They should have all been shut down years ago. I bet if you took up a collection from airline pilots to shut down the ADF/NDB approaches at rural airports you would probably get enough to to pay for GPS app at all airports - I'm speaking of course of pre-glass airline pilots. Nobody like shooting those NDB approaches in the sim. To say the NDB is a non-precision approach is an understatement - it's an emergency proceedure
09-07-2014 | 07:35 PM
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From: Pitot heat, what's to eat?
If you are simply renting an airplane to build time, not undergoing instruction, it is a bit of a strange policy. Presumably you have demonstrated your pilotage skills when you took your checkride and/or checkout. So now that you are simply renting, how you navigate, be it ipad, pilotage, kentucky windage, whatever, is basically your business IMHO provided it is done competently. Essentially I would be expecting to be treated like a grownup, otherwise I would look for somewhere a little less rigid to build time.
That said, plotting courses on paper and such is good practice and will make you a better pilot. Plus it's more fun to look out the window and identify landmarks than to tap tap tap on your ipad. We have enough gee-whiz distractions in our life, enjoy the simple flying while you can.
That said, plotting courses on paper and such is good practice and will make you a better pilot. Plus it's more fun to look out the window and identify landmarks than to tap tap tap on your ipad. We have enough gee-whiz distractions in our life, enjoy the simple flying while you can.
09-08-2014 | 08:44 AM
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