Qatar Airways
06-22-2015, 02:31 PM
#51
time for crew rest
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: B777 Captain
Posts: 121
Originally Posted by Readback
QR is not a bad choice for those who have no other choice, i.e. their airline shut down, bankrupt with pension termination, have no family back in their home country.
QR is not a good choice for those who wish to get hired by US legacy carriers. The bond remains, and it is not a good idea to skip out without paying.
OBTW, there not a single US legacy carrier whose career, pay, benefits, and retirement package is worse than QR. Yes you may start out with a lower pay, but overall you will do better.
As for QR being better organized than a US major, I will only say this. There was a time when the "majors" in the US consisted of the legacy carriers plus a couple more. Now, that is not the case.
Good luck with your decision!
QR is not a good choice for those who wish to get hired by US legacy carriers. The bond remains, and it is not a good idea to skip out without paying.
OBTW, there not a single US legacy carrier whose career, pay, benefits, and retirement package is worse than QR. Yes you may start out with a lower pay, but overall you will do better.
As for QR being better organized than a US major, I will only say this. There was a time when the "majors" in the US consisted of the legacy carriers plus a couple more. Now, that is not the case.
Good luck with your decision!
07-02-2015, 08:48 AM
#52
Line Holder
Joined APC: May 2012
Position: assume it
Posts: 54
Priceless insight
Originally Posted by FAAFlyer
An amusing tidbit about Qatar Airways. The symbol of the airline and country is the Arabian Oryx. The people in the middle east effectively hunted them to extinction by the early 70s.
The Phoenix Zoo with the help of a few other western groups saved the animal from complete extinction by captive breeding them at the Phoenix Zoo. I have been a member of the Phoenix Zoo for quite a while, that's the only reason I know that.
It's slightly humorous that Qatar Airways would choose a symbol for their airline that is symbolic for Western generosity. Kind of like the EM-IX Bank when you think about it.
Arabian oryx - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Phoenix Zoo with the help of a few other western groups saved the animal from complete extinction by captive breeding them at the Phoenix Zoo. I have been a member of the Phoenix Zoo for quite a while, that's the only reason I know that.
It's slightly humorous that Qatar Airways would choose a symbol for their airline that is symbolic for Western generosity. Kind of like the EM-IX Bank when you think about it.
Arabian oryx - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The irony is not lost on me...pilots heading to work for the ME3 then expecting to head back to the USA/elsewhere for a "real" airline job/career. Meanwhile, the ME3 are dumping capacity, getting interest free loans to buy new airplanes from the EX-IM bank, and ultimately owned and run by the "royal" families that own that particular patch of sand. They are trying to run the airlines that most wanna work for out of business. Competition is fine, but not against this stacked deck.
You gotta do what's best for you and your family, but I think I would fly an RJ in the USA before I chose to serve this master.
07-02-2015, 09:23 AM
#53
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 8,898
Originally Posted by ayecarumba
Thanks for that amusing bit of info!
The irony is not lost on me...pilots heading to work for the ME3 then expecting to head back to the USA/elsewhere for a "real" airline job/career. Meanwhile, the ME3 are dumping capacity, getting interest free loans to buy new airplanes from the EX-IM bank, and ultimately owned and run by the "royal" families that own that particular patch of sand. They are trying to run the airlines that most wanna work for out of business. Competition is fine, but not against this stacked deck.
You gotta do what's best for you and your family, but I think I would fly an RJ in the USA before I chose to serve this master.
The irony is not lost on me...pilots heading to work for the ME3 then expecting to head back to the USA/elsewhere for a "real" airline job/career. Meanwhile, the ME3 are dumping capacity, getting interest free loans to buy new airplanes from the EX-IM bank, and ultimately owned and run by the "royal" families that own that particular patch of sand. They are trying to run the airlines that most wanna work for out of business. Competition is fine, but not against this stacked deck.
You gotta do what's best for you and your family, but I think I would fly an RJ in the USA before I chose to serve this master.
07-05-2015, 11:03 AM
#55
Somewhere in Europe
Joined APC: Jan 2010
Position: A330 FO
Posts: 117
The bond is $50,000 for 5 years now on any fleet.
It used to be no bond if you were already rated with over 100hrs on type, and for non type rated it was something like $20,000 for three years.
The symbol of the airline and country is the Arabian Oryx. The people in the middle east effectively hunted them to extinction by the early 70s.
It was many years ago that I left QR, and the few people I know still there tell me the rostering is better now, and they are certainly flying much less hours on the 320 and 330 these days. Although we used to have lots of long layovers back in my time. Anything between 18hrs and 5 days down-route. Yep, definitely some good times down-route!
Us younger un-married pilots were the first to leave. The ones that stayed on for many years all had a wife and kids.
I enjoyed my time at QR, and wouldn't want to be without the experience of having lived in the Middle East, but 5 years is a long time, and I wouldn't sign a bond for that long in Qatar unless I was prepared to buy out of it early.
Last edited by Toasty; 07-05-2015 at 11:41 AM.
07-05-2015, 03:30 PM
#57
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2012
Posts: 612
Aero Crew Solutions has created a FREE pilot hiring magazine called Aero Crew News. Every month we try to spotlight a major airline and a regional airline. Qatar Airways and Trans States Airlines are our spotlight airlines for the month of July.
To read the magazine article visit: Aero Crew News You can also subscribe to the magazine for free if you wish.
To read the PDF version for July visit: www.aerocrewnews.us/acn/07-Jul-ACN-2015.pdf
To read the magazine article visit: Aero Crew News You can also subscribe to the magazine for free if you wish.
To read the PDF version for July visit: www.aerocrewnews.us/acn/07-Jul-ACN-2015.pdf
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