mainlineAF

Yea trump won't do anything about this. If he says anything about it its going to be they're buying Boeing and hiring US crews. That's it.

APC225

I agree American labor is going to lose. Without the collective bargaining of unions it simply cannot succeed no matter who is in office or what they promised and with Right to Work on a fast track those days are gone.

Packrat

No, it's the APC tendency toward groupthink. Anyone or anything said contrary is immediately excoriated.

Packrat

Give it up.

Trying to change their minds is like trying to teach a cat to whistle...it's a waste of your time and it irritates the cat.

Packrat

They weren't in Eisenhower's day. Then one of them read Ayn Rand's B.S.

hoover

Everyone keeps saying they'll hire 50% US crews. They said that 50% of the crews will be US based. There's a big difference.
Contract Terms
Basic Salary (Monthly)
USD8,500
Allowance incl. per diems (Monthly)
USD1,000
Roster
Minimum 10 days off per month, no fixed pattern. In the long term and subject to the number of crew, Norwegian is aiming for a more fixed pattern with block of off days.
Vacation
Crew members will be entitled to 28 days’ vacation per year including US Public holidays.
Sick Leave
Maximum 30 paid sick leave days per year.
Accommodation
At layover stations the accommodation is provided by Norwegian.
Ground Transportation
Provided by Norwegian at layover stations.
Travel Benefits
ID travel benefits are provided to pilots and their qualifying family members on Norwegian services according to their policies.
Insurance
Both Medical and Personal Accident and Illness insurance are provided.
Phone Allowance (Monthly)
USD100
BDO (Bought Day Off) - Daily; Additional pay when working on an off day
USD850.

Congrats for the Cpts. Who only have 10 days off a month and not in a row or any kind of pattern who only make $8500/ month. 2nd yr FO at any major makes more and has way more time off. I hope they can't find any pilots. The supplementals here are having a hard time and they pay better than that.

Tiggerpilot

I hate to say it fellas, however ALPA did none of us a favor by being so passive on the issue. SWAPA and NJASAP asked ALPA get the word out with an event the first week of Trump's presidency. Their reply paraphrased was "we don't want Mr Trump to think we don't like him".
Ridiculous.

In contract negotiations and politics, a lot of attention can be garnered through these highly visible events. At a time when all aviation unions should have come together, the largest one decided to sit it out and work "behind the scenes".

Guess that didn't work out to well.

JamesNoBrakes

Boeing is absolutely huge. Number of employees may not be the best comparison with all the trickle down/other effects of Boeing. Military, civilian, design, production, support, etc. They know how to play this system by having plants and production in nearly every state, making every senator an advocate for their jobs.

full of luv

Wow, that's so benevolent.... NAI is going to pickup the hotel and transpo during layovers.

The scary thing about that ad is that they even listed it as a benefit... as in there are contracts out there where the pilot is responsible for layover hotel and transpo.

GogglesPisano

They may even let you drink the water from the airplane, which is a step up from Ryanair. Face it, there are guys out there who will jump at the opportunity to fly a 787 for RJ wages.