GAMA / WHEELS UP - Current Pilot Experiences
02-18-2019, 05:10 AM
#121
"Yinzer an'at"
Joined APC: Jun 2012
Position: Sittin at the puter
Posts: 186
Originally Posted by Guard
These guys are angling for the doctors who want to go on a golf trip, where as NetJets owners average wealth's north of $50 million.
https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/...els-up-bullish
“We want to disrupt and democratize,” said Kenny Dichter, founder and CEO of private-membership, on-demand charter firm Wheels Up. So far, the strategy is working, with Dichter saying that he sees a total of one to two million companies and individuals as the potential membership market."
If you consider the Charter / Fractional customer model as a pyramid with Global Challengers and Gulfstreams at the top, then those operators are fighting for a rather small market. The base of the pyramid represents a much larger population segment.
https://www.quora.com/How-much-does-...join-Wheels-Up
Wheels Up has two membership levels:
Individuals and families are $17,500
Corporations are $29,500
You then pay per hour:
King Air 350i is $4,675 per hour + 7.5% Federal Excise Tax
Citation Excel/XLS is $7,695 per hour + 7.5% Federal Excise Tax
Considering the King Air seats 9 that's $519.33 /hr. A very reasonable rate on a per head basis and not a lot of up front cost.
02-19-2019, 01:34 PM
#125
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Position: Freight Dawg
Posts: 43
One week
Originally Posted by CJflyer74
Question for the current Gama (Wheels Up) pilots...
How long is the hiring process for FOs from a successful interview to paid training? Sounds like things move pretty quickly with new classes each month.
Also, are all new-hires going into the King Air, or are some pilots going right into the jets? I’d be happy flying either... just curious.
I meet all the mins (have my ATP and 500+ hours of CE-525 time). Definitely going to apply.
Thanks for all helpful replies!
How long is the hiring process for FOs from a successful interview to paid training? Sounds like things move pretty quickly with new classes each month.
Also, are all new-hires going into the King Air, or are some pilots going right into the jets? I’d be happy flying either... just curious.
I meet all the mins (have my ATP and 500+ hours of CE-525 time). Definitely going to apply.
Thanks for all helpful replies!
02-19-2019, 03:37 PM
#126
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2016
Posts: 59
Originally Posted by Pirot
I was interviewed, hired and started getting paid a week later. That week preceded indoc. During that week I completed 40 hours of online training that was assigned by the training department at Gama.
02-19-2019, 06:26 PM
#127
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2018
Posts: 313
Originally Posted by Pirot
I was interviewed, hired and started getting paid a week later. That week preceded indoc. During that week I completed 40 hours of online training that was assigned by the training department at Gama.
02-20-2019, 07:32 AM
#128
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Position: Freight Dawg
Posts: 43
Second time in 2018
Originally Posted by Guard
it took me at least 75 hours, that was a ton of work!
03-01-2019, 08:54 AM
#130
Wrenching on avionics
Joined APC: Aug 2018
Position: sitting
Posts: 175
Originally Posted by Joebob21
What kind of pay can a King air SIC expect? Upgrade time? Almost to 1500 hrs now, 600 Multi, no previous turbine experience. CFI, CFII, MEI. Think I have a shot with these times?
Approx. 1 year.
req. ATP min.
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