GAMA / WHEELS UP - Current Pilot Experiences
05-06-2019, 07:46 AM
#161
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Joined APC: Mar 2014
Position: Small to large - in that order.
Posts: 61
Originally Posted by Guard
I got hired as PIC and was really pretty happy with it, pay was good, very good benefits etc. I also like their hiring process, one Skype interview and your pretty much told your hired. I put in my App and got an email same day. Home based is awesome if you would have to commute for a major. Good people at Gama, good atmosphere, chief pilot was a bit cocky (very young) for me but whatever, hope to never see him. Overall I thought it was a great place. I left for NJA only because it was more money and 7/7 in a jet that does a lot of coast to coast and Caribbean and South America, but WU has a great model for who they are targeting as customers. Can't say a bad thing about the place (still where my swag on days off-nice stuff). If you do get hired heed the advice and start the CBT's as soon as you get access, they say a week, I did 6 hours a day for 2 weeks!
05-06-2019, 11:11 AM
#162
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Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 226
On the online FO job posting, stated minimums are simply ATP. How much simulator time will they allow as part of the 50 multi hours required? I know the regionals are maxing it out at 25 hours.
By the time I’d be applying I’d have about 2000 TT, with ~1000 TPIC and ~1000 135 experience, but all in PC-12s. At the moment I’m only sitting on 24 hours of Seminole time and realistically by the time I could apply I’d have a little Aztec time on top of that.
By the time I’d be applying I’d have about 2000 TT, with ~1000 TPIC and ~1000 135 experience, but all in PC-12s. At the moment I’m only sitting on 24 hours of Seminole time and realistically by the time I could apply I’d have a little Aztec time on top of that.
05-06-2019, 02:03 PM
#163
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 461
Originally Posted by MaxMar
On the online FO job posting, stated minimums are simply ATP. How much simulator time will they allow as part of the 50 multi hours required? I know the regionals are maxing it out at 25 hours.
By the time I’d be applying I’d have about 2000 TT, with ~1000 TPIC and ~1000 135 experience, but all in PC-12s. At the moment I’m only sitting on 24 hours of Seminole time and realistically by the time I could apply I’d have a little Aztec time on top of that.
By the time I’d be applying I’d have about 2000 TT, with ~1000 TPIC and ~1000 135 experience, but all in PC-12s. At the moment I’m only sitting on 24 hours of Seminole time and realistically by the time I could apply I’d have a little Aztec time on top of that.
05-06-2019, 06:23 PM
#164
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Joined APC: Dec 2017
Posts: 148
I’m not there, but I was told directly that 300 multi turbine or 500 multi piston hours are the absolute lower limits for any FO applicants, insurance drives this.
Originally Posted by MaxMar
On the online FO job posting, stated minimums are simply ATP. How much simulator time will they allow as part of the 50 multi hours required? I know the regionals are maxing it out at 25 hours.
By the time I’d be applying I’d have about 2000 TT, with ~1000 TPIC and ~1000 135 experience, but all in PC-12s. At the moment I’m only sitting on 24 hours of Seminole time and realistically by the time I could apply I’d have a little Aztec time on top of that.
By the time I’d be applying I’d have about 2000 TT, with ~1000 TPIC and ~1000 135 experience, but all in PC-12s. At the moment I’m only sitting on 24 hours of Seminole time and realistically by the time I could apply I’d have a little Aztec time on top of that.
05-06-2019, 07:04 PM
#165
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Joined APC: Aug 2018
Position: Line holder
Posts: 513
Originally Posted by Brody
Prove to us that YOUR opinion is correct. Post proof that WU doesn't cut corners or knowingly allow violations.
Please be specific.
And just because the company hasn't been caught by the FAA doesn't mean they aren't committing violations. It just means they've gotten away with it up to now.
So back up your opinions with verifiable evidence.
Please be specific.
And just because the company hasn't been caught by the FAA doesn't mean they aren't committing violations. It just means they've gotten away with it up to now.
So back up your opinions with verifiable evidence.
I’m not a GAMA pilot, just a casual reader who understands reason and logic. The statement above is unreasonable and illogical.
One cannot prove a negative: “Prove you are NOT a murderer.” It’s impossible.
That someone has never been violated doesn’t mean they will never be, of course, but it’s solid evidence they’ve never been violated. It’s reasonable to infer a poor safety culture would be reflected in violations.
An accusation is not an opinion. And the party making an accusation has the burden of substantiating it; if they cannot, it deserves to be ignored.
This is just common sense. But alas that is often uncommon...
05-07-2019, 03:41 AM
#166
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Joined APC: Jun 2016
Posts: 59
Originally Posted by majorpilot
I’m not a GAMA pilot, just a casual reader who understands reason and logic. The statement above is unreasonable and illogical.
One cannot prove a negative: “Prove you are NOT a murderer.” It’s impossible.
That someone has never been violated doesn’t mean they will never be, of course, but it’s solid evidence they’ve never been violated. It’s reasonable to infer a poor safety culture would be reflected in violations.
An accusation is not an opinion. And the party making an accusation has the burden of substantiating it; if they cannot, it deserves to be ignored.
This is just common sense. But alas that is often uncommon...
One cannot prove a negative: “Prove you are NOT a murderer.” It’s impossible.
That someone has never been violated doesn’t mean they will never be, of course, but it’s solid evidence they’ve never been violated. It’s reasonable to infer a poor safety culture would be reflected in violations.
An accusation is not an opinion. And the party making an accusation has the burden of substantiating it; if they cannot, it deserves to be ignored.
This is just common sense. But alas that is often uncommon...
05-10-2019, 11:23 AM
#167
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Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 40
Turboprops VS Jets
I’ve been thinking about applying for a FO position with WU. I certainly meet the mins (have an ATP and 500 multi-jet). I just wanted to get some feedback from the current pilots on something a little more subjective. How do you all like flying the King Air 350 on an eight day stretch? Are you counting the days until you are upgraded to the jet fleet, or are you enjoying it?
I think the King Air 350 looks like it would be a very fun airplane. I have some experience in the Pilatus PC-12 and really enjoyed it. A buddy of mine who is in jets recently remarked to me that flying a King Air that much (on an eight day schedule) would be awful (as compared to working in jets). I know you’re cruising lower and dealing with more weather, but that doesn’t really bother me. My eventual goal is not the major airlines, which is also why I don’t mind going from jets to props. Any thoughts on how you all do or don’t like the airplane? Thanks very much.
I think the King Air 350 looks like it would be a very fun airplane. I have some experience in the Pilatus PC-12 and really enjoyed it. A buddy of mine who is in jets recently remarked to me that flying a King Air that much (on an eight day schedule) would be awful (as compared to working in jets). I know you’re cruising lower and dealing with more weather, but that doesn’t really bother me. My eventual goal is not the major airlines, which is also why I don’t mind going from jets to props. Any thoughts on how you all do or don’t like the airplane? Thanks very much.
05-10-2019, 12:40 PM
#168
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Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 171
Originally Posted by CJflyer74
I’ve been thinking about applying for a FO position with WU. I certainly meet the mins (have an ATP and 500 multi-jet). I just wanted to get some feedback from the current pilots on something a little more subjective. How do you all like flying the King Air 350 on an eight day stretch? Are you counting the days until you are upgraded to the jet fleet, or are you enjoying it?
I think the King Air 350 looks like it would be a very fun airplane. I have some experience in the Pilatus PC-12 and really enjoyed it. A buddy of mine who is in jets recently remarked to me that flying a King Air that much (on an eight day schedule) would be awful (as compared to working in jets). I know you’re cruising lower and dealing with more weather, but that doesn’t really bother me. My eventual goal is not the major airlines, which is also why I don’t mind going from jets to props. Any thoughts on how you all do or don’t like the airplane? Thanks very much.
I think the King Air 350 looks like it would be a very fun airplane. I have some experience in the Pilatus PC-12 and really enjoyed it. A buddy of mine who is in jets recently remarked to me that flying a King Air that much (on an eight day schedule) would be awful (as compared to working in jets). I know you’re cruising lower and dealing with more weather, but that doesn’t really bother me. My eventual goal is not the major airlines, which is also why I don’t mind going from jets to props. Any thoughts on how you all do or don’t like the airplane? Thanks very much.
05-10-2019, 03:38 PM
#169
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: FAA 'Flight Check'
Posts: 13,837
I don’t work for Gamma and don’t fly for 8 days in a row; but I came from Marine tactical air and my organization flies King Air 309s, L60s, and Challenger 601/04/05s. I’ve been asked to transition to all of them and I have chosen to stay in the King Air.
I love it!
I love it!
05-10-2019, 04:06 PM
#170
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Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 40
Turboprops VS Jets
Busdriver91 and USMCFLYR... thanks for your responses. I think I would really like the King Air as well, but it’s great to hear about the airplane from pilots currently flying it for a living.
Would the company allow San Diego as a base / gateway airport? I imagine it would just make days one and eight a little rougher on me, but I really like Southern CA. I currently live in the Mid-Atlantic area. Just considering the move west. Thanks again.
Would the company allow San Diego as a base / gateway airport? I imagine it would just make days one and eight a little rougher on me, but I really like Southern CA. I currently live in the Mid-Atlantic area. Just considering the move west. Thanks again.
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