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Old 05-01-2019, 05:00 PM
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Wheels Up doesn’t employ pilots, dispatchers, or flight-followers. Don’t think that number of employees has an effect on going public. I’m fairly certain they aren’t looking at buying any certificates at this time.
Kenny isn't known for buying assets, just marketing products. From what I saw at WU he plays it at the top only with a few of his high school buddies. As I think we saw at NJA he does't like dealing with or taking orders, can't see him wanting a board to answer to.
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Old 05-02-2019, 12:29 PM
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Kenny isn't known for buying assets, just marketing products. From what I saw at WU he plays it at the top only with a few of his high school buddies. As I think we saw at NJA he does't like dealing with or taking orders, can't see him wanting a board to answer to.
WU makes no secret of wanting to go public. You must not work here.
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Old 05-03-2019, 04:22 PM
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WU makes no secret of wanting to go public. You must not work here.
I did, and I saw it for what it is, shell game in action! If your Gama employee you got lots to worry about in my opinion long term on WU side.
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Old 05-04-2019, 03:42 PM
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I did, and I saw it for what it is, shell game in action! If your Gama employee you got lots to worry about in my opinion long term on WU side.
Or you can go off of what you know. The contract renewed last year, without even a discussion. We are still very busy. Wheels Up is still young and GAMA take good care of us.
Could we shut down tomorrow? Yes. Is it likely? Not at all. Am I gonna worry about what MIGHT happen next year, next quarter, or even next month? Not at all. Life’s too short to worry about stuff that might happen and is out of my control. As long as the check comes every couple of weeks and we continue to get treated well, I’m happy.
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Old 05-04-2019, 04:05 PM
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Or you can go off of what you know. The contract renewed last year, without even a discussion. We are still very busy. Wheels Up is still young and GAMA take good care of us.
Could we shut down tomorrow? Yes. Is it likely? Not at all. Am I gonna worry about what MIGHT happen next year, next quarter, or even next month? Not at all. Life’s too short to worry about stuff that might happen and is out of my control. As long as the check comes every couple of weeks and we continue to get treated well, I’m happy.
I think the WU model is brilliant, I have no doubt it will be around, I just wonder if they want to go public who will be WU employees? I liked all the people I worked with at Gama and want ti see it succeed!
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Old 05-05-2019, 07:53 AM
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I’m interested in a PIC opening. Anyone able to weigh in on their experience going that route? Pay and benefits seem very decent and the 8/6 at least has predictability which I’m lacking on call. I expect they work you pretty good on your 8. Do you go into your rotation knowing what the week entails (more or less), or is it more like you get tomorrow’s info the night before? Do they respect the 6 off or is there lots of extending and “asking” you to stretch your on days?
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Old 05-05-2019, 09:02 AM
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I’m interested in a PIC opening. Anyone able to weigh in on their experience going that route? Pay and benefits seem very decent and the 8/6 at least has predictability which I’m lacking on call. I expect they work you pretty good on your 8. Do you go into your rotation knowing what the week entails (more or less), or is it more like you get tomorrow’s info the night before? Do they respect the 6 off or is there lots of extending and “asking” you to stretch your on days?
Pay if you go PIC route 1st year is 90K you and your family medical is 100% paid. The 8/6 is industry standard. I have had day-8 that I’ve been home by lunch others I got home very close to midnight so it does vary widely. Depends on time of year and your home base vs what side of country you are on for that rotation. 90% of the time you find out your next days scheduale around 3-5pm. It’s subject to change but usually you will know the evening before. Yes they absolutely respect the 6 days off. Now sometimes they will offer premium pay but it’s not a mandate. If it’s not worth it to you, you can go home and won’t hear one word about it. They know they work us hard but they do respect are time off. I can’t even find one pilot that has ever said they purposely forced them to work an extra day.

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Old 05-05-2019, 11:08 AM
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Pay if you go PIC route 1st year is 90K you and your family medical is 100% paid. The 8/6 is industry standard. I have had day-8 that I’ve been home by lunch others I got home very close to midnight so it does vary widely. Depends on time of year and your home base vs what side of country you are on for that rotation. 90% of the time you find out your next days scheduale around 3-5pm. It’s subject to change but usually you will know the evening before. Yes they absolutely respect the 6 days off. Now sometimes they will offer premium pay but it’s not a mandate. If it’s not worth it to you, you can go home and won’t hear one word about it. They know they work us hard but they do respect are time off. I can’t even find one pilot that has ever said they purposely forced them to work an extra day.
Very cool, thank you. Yes 8/6 sounds just fine especially since they’re adamant that travel is done on days 1 & 8. So 6 days off is truly 6 days off. Most of what I’m able to find is neutral to positive with very few complaints. That’s as close to a glowing recommendation as you’ll find on the internet!
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Very cool, thank you. Yes 8/6 sounds just fine especially since they’re adamant that travel is done on days 1 & 8. So 6 days off is truly 6 days off. Most of what I’m able to find is neutral to positive with very few complaints. That’s as close to a glowing recommendation as you’ll find on the internet!
Your travel is done on days 1 & 8 but you will likely fly 1 or 2 legs on those days too. The biggest compliant that most people have about this place is getting home on day 8.
If you're a West coast based pilot for example and you end your tour on the East coast, you will have a long day ahead of you. If you duty on at 6am (3am on your West Coast body clock) then duty off at 2pm for your 4pm flight home, you'll likely be walking through the door at around 11pm if you have a connection in the middle. That's 2am in the time zone you started in, 20 hours after you dutied on.

In this scenario you would receive $500 overtime for arriving home after midnight in the time zone you started in, but I think most people would rather see their wife and kids before everyone turns in for the night. If you live close to a major hub you may get home a little earlier.

Health insurance is excellent, the aircraft are well maintained, the hotels are nice and you are never pressured to fly during your 6 days off.
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Old 05-06-2019, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Venkman View Post
I’m interested in a PIC opening. Anyone able to weigh in on their experience going that route? Pay and benefits seem very decent and the 8/6 at least has predictability which I’m lacking on call. I expect they work you pretty good on your 8. Do you go into your rotation knowing what the week entails (more or less), or is it more like you get tomorrow’s info the night before? Do they respect the 6 off or is there lots of extending and “asking” you to stretch your on days?
I got hired as PIC and was really pretty happy with it, pay was good, very good benefits etc. I also like their hiring process, one Skype interview and your pretty much told your hired. I put in my App and got an email same day. Home based is awesome if you would have to commute for a major. Good people at Gama, good atmosphere, chief pilot was a bit cocky (very young) for me but whatever, hope to never see him. Overall I thought it was a great place. I left for NJA only because it was more money and 7/7 in a jet that does a lot of coast to coast and Caribbean and South America, but WU has a great model for who they are targeting as customers. Can't say a bad thing about the place (still where my swag on days off-nice stuff). If you do get hired heed the advice and start the CBT's as soon as you get access, they say a week, I did 6 hours a day for 2 weeks!
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