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07-24-2020 | 01:47 PM
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But anyway, so how often are the legs empty? Half? 1/4? 1/10?
07-24-2020 | 02:24 PM
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07-25-2020 | 05:47 PM
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I mean, the CA can log the time on passenger legs too, why can’t the FO fly some? FOs never fly passengers at all? Captains never have to safety brief? FOs never get the compliments about the nice landing even though we all agree the trailing link is the real superstar?? That’s kinda too bad.
07-26-2020 | 02:04 AM
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I mean, the CA can log the time on passenger legs too, why can’t the FO fly some? FOs never fly passengers at all? Captains never have to safety brief? FOs never get the compliments about the nice landing even though we all agree the trailing link is the real superstar?? That’s kinda too bad.
07-26-2020 | 01:01 PM
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Nothing says the FO cant fly a live leg. I used to fly them sometimes if a CA really didn't feel like it. The main reason CAs fly the live legs is you generally trade duties each leg and the only way for you to log time on the empty legs is if you are actually flying the airplane.
07-26-2020 | 01:49 PM
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Nothing says the FO cant fly a live leg. I used to fly them sometimes if a CA really didn't feel like it. The main reason CAs fly the live legs is you generally trade duties each leg and the only way for you to log time on the empty legs is if you are actually flying the airplane.
They can fly program legs VFR, I believe, but this isn't done often, and it's a bit awkward. Switching off each leg with captains flying occupied legs almost always means the SIC flies more anyway.
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07-26-2020 | 02:37 PM
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Our company manuals say FOs can't fly program or charter legs under IFR as they don't complete the proper line checks to legally do so. Simple as that.
They can fly program legs VFR, I believe, but this isn't done often, and it's a bit awkward. Switching off each leg with captains flying occupied legs almost always means the SIC flies more anyway.
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They can fly program legs VFR, I believe, but this isn't done often, and it's a bit awkward. Switching off each leg with captains flying occupied legs almost always means the SIC flies more anyway.
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07-26-2020 | 02:43 PM
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I have found the breakdown down to be 50/50 there are some days where there’s 1 more repo leg. I don’t see what’s the big deal with FOs not being able to fly the passenger legs because the still get to log those legs.
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