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#2971
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Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 282
Also it should be said that you will be doing everything that was done for you at Jet Blue (cleaning, catering, flight planning, fuel planning, lavs, etc.). When I was there it was the hardest thing for the retired 121 guys to adapt to. Also some people had issues with the way the Honeywell works, but I thought it was very user friendly. Personally, I really enjoyed my time there, and the airplane and the flying is the most fun I've had flying in my professional career
#2972
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 441
UnbeatenPath
There have been some changes since you left,
The initial catering of the aircraft is done by the line guys in PSM. On the road for catering all the FO does is make sure that whatever the passengers use is replaced from the catering bins stored in the back of the aircraft. If they run low then the crew restocks them from catering lockers stored at 4 Plane Sense cities, or the Captain goes to a grocery store on the overnight. This happens maybe once a rotation.
We now use Foreflight which selects the route, altitude, and plans on max fuel (taking into account passengers and their bags). Before he files the flight plan the Captain selects the alternate and can modify the route, altitude, and fuel if he desires. This is no different than what I did for 22 years with my 121 airline except I don't have to coordinate with Dispatch, I just do it.
As for the lavs in my 5 years at Plane Sense all that I, or the FO, has done is removed the honey bucket from the lav and given it to the FBO line guys to dump.
I do agree with you that flying the PC-12 is very enjoyable and the most fun of my professional career.
There have been some changes since you left,
The initial catering of the aircraft is done by the line guys in PSM. On the road for catering all the FO does is make sure that whatever the passengers use is replaced from the catering bins stored in the back of the aircraft. If they run low then the crew restocks them from catering lockers stored at 4 Plane Sense cities, or the Captain goes to a grocery store on the overnight. This happens maybe once a rotation.
We now use Foreflight which selects the route, altitude, and plans on max fuel (taking into account passengers and their bags). Before he files the flight plan the Captain selects the alternate and can modify the route, altitude, and fuel if he desires. This is no different than what I did for 22 years with my 121 airline except I don't have to coordinate with Dispatch, I just do it.
As for the lavs in my 5 years at Plane Sense all that I, or the FO, has done is removed the honey bucket from the lav and given it to the FBO line guys to dump.
I do agree with you that flying the PC-12 is very enjoyable and the most fun of my professional career.
#2973
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 282
UnbeatenPath
There have been some changes since you left,
The initial catering of the aircraft is done by the line guys in PSM. On the road for catering all the FO does is make sure that whatever the passengers use is replaced from the catering bins stored in the back of the aircraft. If they run low then the crew restocks them from catering lockers stored at 4 Plane Sense cities, or the Captain goes to a grocery store on the overnight. This happens maybe once a rotation.
We now use Foreflight which selects the route, altitude, and plans on max fuel (taking into account passengers and their bags). Before he files the flight plan the Captain selects the alternate and can modify the route, altitude, and fuel if he desires. This is no different than what I did for 22 years with my 121 airline except I don't have to coordinate with Dispatch, I just do it.
As for the lavs in my 5 years at Plane Sense all that I, or the FO, has done is removed the honey bucket from the lav and given it to the FBO line guys to dump.
I do agree with you that flying the PC-12 is very enjoyable and the most fun of my professional career.
There have been some changes since you left,
The initial catering of the aircraft is done by the line guys in PSM. On the road for catering all the FO does is make sure that whatever the passengers use is replaced from the catering bins stored in the back of the aircraft. If they run low then the crew restocks them from catering lockers stored at 4 Plane Sense cities, or the Captain goes to a grocery store on the overnight. This happens maybe once a rotation.
We now use Foreflight which selects the route, altitude, and plans on max fuel (taking into account passengers and their bags). Before he files the flight plan the Captain selects the alternate and can modify the route, altitude, and fuel if he desires. This is no different than what I did for 22 years with my 121 airline except I don't have to coordinate with Dispatch, I just do it.
As for the lavs in my 5 years at Plane Sense all that I, or the FO, has done is removed the honey bucket from the lav and given it to the FBO line guys to dump.
I do agree with you that flying the PC-12 is very enjoyable and the most fun of my professional career.
#2974
On Reserve
Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 14
Hey Guys, thanks for the above info, and I should have gotten back to you sooner, but I got a rejection email soon after I submitted. Luckily at 64 1/2 I have figured out that it's OK to get rejected! I think I caused a bit of confusion as I used the website application process, and somehow in the mix I created 2 profiles and could not delete one, and then on the other, I really had no idea how many hours I had so I tried to put 10,000+ but apparently I put 10.000+ which appeared to be "10" hours on the app. I put in a low number so I would not be overestimating. The folks in the HR department emailed me back asking about it, and asked me to send them a resume, and by this time, I had dusted off a resume, and had gotten up to 13,000 hours with more to go, so I updated the resume and indicated 13,000+ hours. That was when the emailed me with the thumbs down. The good news is I finally figured out I have 16,000 all in because this forced me to do the logbook.
Honestly, they probably did me a favor because like Unbeatenpath pointed out, it was going to be a lot of work getting up to speed on REAL flying....unlike the frankly pampered dispatch world I live on now. I am honestly questioning if I could fill out a flightplan! I had to the other day coming home from an airshow because Macdill AFB required one, and I screwed it up and had to call 1-800-WX Brief for the first time in 20 years to fix it. I think that the fact that I could start work in either TPA or MCO was pretty alluring, but I may just enjoy doing nothing.
Anyhoo, thanks for the help guys.
Tom
Honestly, they probably did me a favor because like Unbeatenpath pointed out, it was going to be a lot of work getting up to speed on REAL flying....unlike the frankly pampered dispatch world I live on now. I am honestly questioning if I could fill out a flightplan! I had to the other day coming home from an airshow because Macdill AFB required one, and I screwed it up and had to call 1-800-WX Brief for the first time in 20 years to fix it. I think that the fact that I could start work in either TPA or MCO was pretty alluring, but I may just enjoy doing nothing.
Anyhoo, thanks for the help guys.
Tom
#2975
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 282
Hey Guys, thanks for the above info, and I should have gotten back to you sooner, but I got a rejection email soon after I submitted. Luckily at 64 1/2 I have figured out that it's OK to get rejected! I think I caused a bit of confusion as I used the website application process, and somehow in the mix I created 2 profiles and could not delete one, and then on the other, I really had no idea how many hours I had so I tried to put 10,000+ but apparently I put 10.000+ which appeared to be "10" hours on the app. I put in a low number so I would not be overestimating. The folks in the HR department emailed me back asking about it, and asked me to send them a resume, and by this time, I had dusted off a resume, and had gotten up to 13,000 hours with more to go, so I updated the resume and indicated 13,000+ hours. That was when the emailed me with the thumbs down. The good news is I finally figured out I have 16,000 all in because this forced me to do the logbook.
Honestly, they probably did me a favor because like Unbeatenpath pointed out, it was going to be a lot of work getting up to speed on REAL flying....unlike the frankly pampered dispatch world I live on now. I am honestly questioning if I could fill out a flightplan! I had to the other day coming home from an airshow because Macdill AFB required one, and I screwed it up and had to call 1-800-WX Brief for the first time in 20 years to fix it. I think that the fact that I could start work in either TPA or MCO was pretty alluring, but I may just enjoy doing nothing.
Anyhoo, thanks for the help guys.
Tom
Honestly, they probably did me a favor because like Unbeatenpath pointed out, it was going to be a lot of work getting up to speed on REAL flying....unlike the frankly pampered dispatch world I live on now. I am honestly questioning if I could fill out a flightplan! I had to the other day coming home from an airshow because Macdill AFB required one, and I screwed it up and had to call 1-800-WX Brief for the first time in 20 years to fix it. I think that the fact that I could start work in either TPA or MCO was pretty alluring, but I may just enjoy doing nothing.
Anyhoo, thanks for the help guys.
Tom
#2976
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2015
Position: B777 CA
Posts: 736
Hey Guys, thanks for the above info, and I should have gotten back to you sooner, but I got a rejection email soon after I submitted. Luckily at 64 1/2 I have figured out that it's OK to get rejected! I think I caused a bit of confusion as I used the website application process, and somehow in the mix I created 2 profiles and could not delete one, and then on the other, I really had no idea how many hours I had so I tried to put 10,000+ but apparently I put 10.000+ which appeared to be "10" hours on the app. I put in a low number so I would not be overestimating. The folks in the HR department emailed me back asking about it, and asked me to send them a resume, and by this time, I had dusted off a resume, and had gotten up to 13,000 hours with more to go, so I updated the resume and indicated 13,000+ hours. That was when the emailed me with the thumbs down. The good news is I finally figured out I have 16,000 all in because this forced me to do the logbook.
Honestly, they probably did me a favor because like Unbeatenpath pointed out, it was going to be a lot of work getting up to speed on REAL flying....unlike the frankly pampered dispatch world I live on now. I am honestly questioning if I could fill out a flightplan! I had to the other day coming home from an airshow because Macdill AFB required one, and I screwed it up and had to call 1-800-WX Brief for the first time in 20 years to fix it. I think that the fact that I could start work in either TPA or MCO was pretty alluring, but I may just enjoy doing nothing.
Anyhoo, thanks for the help guys.
Tom
Honestly, they probably did me a favor because like Unbeatenpath pointed out, it was going to be a lot of work getting up to speed on REAL flying....unlike the frankly pampered dispatch world I live on now. I am honestly questioning if I could fill out a flightplan! I had to the other day coming home from an airshow because Macdill AFB required one, and I screwed it up and had to call 1-800-WX Brief for the first time in 20 years to fix it. I think that the fact that I could start work in either TPA or MCO was pretty alluring, but I may just enjoy doing nothing.
Anyhoo, thanks for the help guys.
Tom
https://raisethepilotage.com
Lots of age 65 retired 121 pilots going to FlexJet. First year pay now 150K and total compensation 175K.
#2977
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 282
If you are 64.5 and half you a have a descent change age 65 will change to 67. We have it attached to the House side of the FAA Bill. The Senate and House Bills are being merged into one now. We hopefully will have a resolution of age 67 in the not too distant future one way or the other.
https://raisethepilotage.com
Lots of age 65 retired 121 pilots going to FlexJet. First year pay now 150K and total compensation 175K.
https://raisethepilotage.com
Lots of age 65 retired 121 pilots going to FlexJet. First year pay now 150K and total compensation 175K.
#2978
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2015
Position: B777 CA
Posts: 736
#2979
On Reserve
Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 14
I do appreciate the effort. I do follow the Raise The Age group. The debate is one thing, but the dirty tricks by ALPA and the FAA are kind of cringy to watch. I am OK with going out at 65, but also think it is pretty arbitrary and watching the antics and subtrifuge makes me dislike my union and government affairs even more.
#2980
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2015
Position: B777 CA
Posts: 736
I do appreciate the effort. I do follow the Raise The Age group. The debate is one thing, but the dirty tricks by ALPA and the FAA are kind of cringy to watch. I am OK with going out at 65, but also think it is pretty arbitrary and watching the antics and subtrifuge makes me dislike my union and
government affairs even more.
government affairs even more.
Enough of the thread drift. I would seriously check out FlexJet. There are presently hiring a significant amount of recently retired 121. They appear to be a top notch outfit. Best of luck.
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