ce650

Yeah that groundschool comment sounds like BS . also I was recently told mgt. was not allowed to give recomendations anymore. also I was told they might drop the domicille requirement and open up all cities like it was before in oct.

The dude

If they do go back to home basing the competitive flight time #'s will skyrocket as they'll get a lot more resumes......probably including mine.

dudemize

From what I understand there are many military pilots at NJA (including fighter dudes). It is unfortunate that you don't meet the mins as they stand right now. I believe the 2500 is written into the owner's contracts so it is a hard minimum.

NJA is different in that they are all about total time whereas the airlines are most interested in PIC turbine. Unfortunately fighter guys get a lot of the latter but not as much of the former. It's too bad because I'm sure you are a great pilot and would do well at NJA. I guess it's just the nature of the beast. You could go to the airlines for a bit and see how you like it while finishing up your 2500TT. Get your app in at DAL, I'd bet you'll hear from them fairly quick. Good luck!

ce650

Well thats what I was told by a capt the other day, and he said the exact same thing , all the options guys would jump ship to come over.

NJA Capt

Sure it is. There are plenty of F-4, A-7, F-8, and F-16 guys here (among other things). They just did a stint flying 747s for places like Kalitta and Evergreen before coming here. NJA has a high population of ex-mil pilots.

jmack

a 737 at major cities, 10,000 foot strips, easy. I've seen many of ex transport guys crying at the fractionals as they are heading into Mtn airports or small 3700 foot uncontrolled strips in the islands. to be honest, the fighter guys, genereally, have had a hard time in the transition to fractionals, not with the flying, but with the many other hats a frax pilots must wear, you must throw away all sense of entitlement. I have flown with some ex fighter guys that have made the transition very well, most have not.
before I get slammed this is not something that ive made up, this is a ongoing problem at all frax.

Huggy Bear

Thank you. That is exactly it. The TT requirements are low, but the PIC requirements are high, I suppose to keep out junior regional types. I'm working on DAL right now as a matter of fact.

Huggy Bear

Well, there's the rub. In a twenty year career of fighters I would qualify, but not my ten. Looks like NJA is not an option until I fly something else.

Huggy Bear

3700 feet! That is huge! I routinely landed on on a 700 foot strip (the boat).

But seriously, I can't get defensive about fighter guys. What do I know, I have never even been a passenger in a bizjet. But, I am surprised that fighter types have trouble adapting. We have many skills that seem readily adaptable to fractional employment. We do all of our own flight planning; We do a lot besides just being pilots - I had 5 ground jobs and was so busy to the point where flying was a welcome distraction; we are used to making big boy decisions on the road where there is no one to call; we have to play well with others - at the boat we fly with many different units and have to do our part as an asset for the battle group commander; and customer service - you should see how our O-4's can kiss an O-5's ass.

Point being, we have to wear a lot of hats in military, and I never saw any sense of entitlement (caveat - I can only speak for Navy).

NetJets_DA2Easy

bear, you're making this 100 times harder than it is, they want 2500 hours,, you have 1700 hours, pick up a copy of trade a plane buy a champ for 10000. log 10 hours a day for 80 days and you'll have the magic number, than sell the champ for 15000.