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Old 04-08-2008, 07:22 AM   #21  
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Maybe with FRED he's TDY more often. Perhaps picking up CZTE as well?
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I have friends in AMC and they make a killing with all the TDY opportunities. Touch the AOR for one day and the whole month's pay is tax free. It's very nice.
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"Money wise, flying FRED made my pay jump quite a bit."

You actually make more money flying the C-5 or you make more money because you have gotten pay raises based on promotion and TIG since your days flying the C-21?
I mean - it doesn't matter if I fly the Hornet or the T-34C - my paycheck stays the same.


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It's the TDY and Tax Free that make the biggest difference. I would say that on average I get an additional $1200-1500 (tax free) a month when flying. Flying a desk, out in the sand box like I am now, I actually took a $5k pay cut

I love the military, but I see the golden time to start a great civilian career slipping away. I just hope, that when it is my time, NJ will still take me!
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..... I am quite positive though, that the FO pay rate is more than sufficient to hold you over until your upgrade. If you are a 3rd year FO, you are making between $63,000 to $78,000 BASE pay...and we all know that you make much more than that with OT, holiday pay, perdiem, bonus payments, etc....
I started 3rd year pay in early January and have been working the 18-day.

As of March 31st (1st quarter) I have grossed $22,700. Multiplied out for the remaining 9 months of the year, I'm on track to gross $91,000 this year. FWIW
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91k is nice, but shouldnt we be able to make that kind of money as a 2nd or 3rd yr fo on the 7n7? Why not stick the junior guys on the 18 and you can bid out of it when you can hold it?

My point is, the more senior you get, ur pay and qol should get better.

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91k is nice, but shouldnt we be able to make that kind of money as a 2nd or 3rd yr fo on the 7n7? Why not stick the junior guys on the 18 and you can bid out of it when you can hold it?

My point is, the more senior you get, ur pay and qol should get better.
I believe if you look at the contract, pay and QOL get better every year, kman. There is the option of giving the company more operational flexibility, i.e. working the 15 day or 18 day, and they pay you a premium for it. If you work the 7n7, a rigid schedule, then you make base pay which increases every year and as you accrue seniority you are able to choose better vacations and have more vacation days, as well as acrruing more PTO days unless you have already used them.

Of course that isn't your point is it. You still think you are worth more and should work less. NJ is not the only employer around. A handful of employers just off the top of my head that pay more: SWA, UPS, FedEX, Cathay. I am sure there are more. Stick around here and help negotiate better pay rates next contract, or if you can't wait that long, market your skills to a company willing to pay your desired compensation.

It's what a free market is all about.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:23 PM   #28  
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Hey all. I searched the site and found out that NetJets does infact have Military Reservists/Guard pilots. As a military member looking to transition to the civilian world, what is the recommended route to take if I plan on joining a Reserve Squadron? Should I try to get all spun up at the squadron before I try to get a job? Is it frowned upon if a new hire has to take 3 months off to get spun up on an new military aircraft? I would never want to leave a new employer hanging and am just trying to have a plan of attack. Of course my plan and what happens are very rarely the same. Thanks for the insight.
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I am by no means an authority on this but here it goes. I will be separating soon through Palace Chase. My plan is to get hired by anyone that will put food on the table. In a perfect world I would be trained up at my reserve job first so I don't have to take Military leave. However, if company X hires me while I am waiting for my Mil training date I will start with company X. I am not an [email protected] but I do have a wife and two kids. The reserves can't get rid of you for training at you civilian job, and your civilian job can't get rid of you for mil leave. I have the same problem you do but this advice was given to me by those that have been there and done that. Two years down the road no one will remember.

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If you do get hired and both training dates are the same...go to your civilian training! In most cases you are not an employee until trained on property. In the reserves once you have a position number/sworn in you are good to go.

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