Originally Posted by JungleJim

The indoc for new pilots is a disaster. I fly the majority of my trips with guys and gals who recently went through the program. Perhaps you should hear what some of them have to say before you claim that the company is blameless.

Originally Posted by bjtdrvr

So you must have a problem then with all of the different airline unions as well? Because that is what a seniority system does. It is unfortunate but you cant have management just making up the rules to suite themselves. Later on the union offered a loa to allow pilots to come down and still retain their pay however that created a situation where there were now junior pilots making more than a couple of captains... the loa just stated that they could move down and keep their pay but the other more senior captains would then get a bump in pay to the same level BUT management was not interested in that!!!!! In fact is was only like two pilots and only for a few months until their pay scale caught up!!! It was management that refused to accept the loa!!! if memory serves me I think that those Hawker pilots could have been offered bumping rights and they could have displaced some beechjet and some phenom captains they then would have also retained their pay. Again management did not want to follow the contract because that would have forced several training events and they did not want to pay for them. Management was trying to work outside the contract and it seems then that the union was the bad guy but that was not the case as there was a perfectly valid way for those guys to retain their pay.

Originally Posted by RI830

I won't even get started on my despise for the unions. ..............Commercial, Fractional, Steel Workers, Transport, etc. .......

Originally Posted by NoSidNoStar

Ah, you despise unions, that does not surprise me at all.

Hmmm, back in the Marriott thread you seamed to think the fractional was commercial. Something has conveniently changed.

Originally Posted by RI830

Nothing has changed. What does my comments about Marriott/Commercial have to do with unions?
Do you think only "commercial" pilots have unions?
Keep trolling.

Originally Posted by NoSidNoStar

Of course not, even if it is not thanks to pilots like you.
The other comment was about the fact you believed fractional was the same as "commercial", as you could not see the difference at all, nothing to do with unions, yet now you made a clear distinction.
I guess you are not keen enough to follow up your own opinions.
And that does not surprise me neither.
P.S. You might not realize this, but the guy fly banner towing is a "commercial" pilot too. Just so you know.

Originally Posted by RI830

Not gonna entertain your inner child.
The hiatus from your "comments" had been nice.
Back to the ignore list you go.