Frontier Negotiations Discussion
10-07-2018, 01:53 AM
#2501
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Originally Posted by CantStayAway
I hope that you (and all of the other 1280ish Frontier pilots) don’t need $150k/year to pay your bills. It’s one thing to want it because it’s comfortable. It’s foolishness at any airline to set yourself up to need that to survive (unless you have wealth/income outside of the fickle airline industry).
This day an age 150k is chump change trying to raise a family middle class.
10-07-2018, 03:02 AM
#2502
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Originally Posted by Mugatu
I would like to survive on Biffle’s 6,000,000/yr to pay my bills.
This day an age 150k is chump change trying to raise a family middle class.
This day an age 150k is chump change trying to raise a family middle class.
Also, statements like “I can’t afford to make less than $150,000/yr” are read by management as “I can’t afford to go on strike for very long, if at all.”
10-07-2018, 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by CantStayAway
I don’t disagree, but to say that you can’t afford to do it for one year in order for the long term gain is sad. It’s short term thinking. I have a family of 5 and we can survive on $3,000/month take home. That’s not saving anything for retirement, college, etc but if I had to do that for 1 year to make $150k+ for the rest of my career it’s a no brainer to me. See flensr’s post above.
Also, statements like “I can’t afford to make less than $150,000/yr” are read by management as “I can’t afford to go on strike for very long, if at all.”
Also, statements like “I can’t afford to make less than $150,000/yr” are read by management as “I can’t afford to go on strike for very long, if at all.”
10-07-2018, 04:34 AM
#2504
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Originally Posted by CantStayAway
Also, statements like “I can’t afford to make less than $150,000/yr” are read by management as “I can’t afford to go on strike for very long, if at all.”
10-14-2018, 11:28 AM
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10-14-2018, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by monkeybrains
10-23-2018, 03:35 PM
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From a closed thread...
Originally Posted by Mugatu
The only reason I bring it up is it’s the elephant in the room nobody wants to talk about. We are not “iced” and never have been. We are well within “zone of reasonableness”. It’s not a failure of the NMB as some pointed to. It all boils down to the NMB board members are unwillingly to ask the administration to be released because they know what the answer is going to be.
10-23-2018, 07:14 PM
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The NMB will never release a pilot group to a 30 day cooling off period unless they believe that the two sides are close enough to an agreement that a deal can be consummated within the 30 days.
Their mandate is to facilitate agreements. If the two sides are at an impasse with no likelihood of an agreement then unfortunately no release will happen.
Increasing your ask and creating an even greater divide between your NC proposal and managements further decreases the likelihood of a release.
Their mandate is to facilitate agreements. If the two sides are at an impasse with no likelihood of an agreement then unfortunately no release will happen.
Increasing your ask and creating an even greater divide between your NC proposal and managements further decreases the likelihood of a release.
10-23-2018, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Stomper
The NMB will never release a pilot group to a 30 day cooling off period unless they believe that the two sides are close enough to an agreement that a deal can be consummated within the 30 days.
Their mandate is to facilitate agreements. If the two sides are at an impasse with no likelihood of an agreement then unfortunately no release will happen.
Increasing your ask and creating an even greater divide between your NC proposal and managements further decreases the likelihood of a release.
Their mandate is to facilitate agreements. If the two sides are at an impasse with no likelihood of an agreement then unfortunately no release will happen.
Increasing your ask and creating an even greater divide between your NC proposal and managements further decreases the likelihood of a release.
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