Thank you!
06-15-2018 | 09:46 PM
#13
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2013
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From: A320 Left seat
At this point not picking up incentive trips would be more detrimental to us getting a contract then picking them up. There should be no blame for people picking up trips or new hires taking jobs. The only blame is with our immoral management. They only care about lining their pockets and don’t care about their employees. Remember where your anger should be pointed.
I don’t work for Frontier so I can blast him. Picking up extra flying and helping to complete flights that might otherwise cancel is way, way, way more detrimental to your cause. Where Spirit got in trouble was all the online talk about it. If everyone got on board and stopped picking up flying silently, and flights started cancelling regularly, you’d be having much more effective bargaining sessions with management.
And don’t worry, there will always be enough greedy, selfish pilots picking up just enough to prevent the perception of a work action.
Again, I don’t work for Frontier, but if my comments might cause any problems for Frontier pilots, then please Mods, delete my post. That isn’t my intent.
06-16-2018 | 10:18 AM
#14
Living the Dream
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Like the previous poster, I don’t work at Frontier. Agreed that picking up premium is a great way to not get a contract. Speaking of which...
People shouldn’t be taking jobs at a carrier in contentious, drawn out negotiations. If everybody just collectively realized that not applying for two months would get Frontier a contract in the same span of time, everyone would be golden, the current pilots and the prospective new hires.
We had the same frustrating thing happen at my regional - as long as people were applying, no contract. It was only when the well had dried up and “behind the power curve” became an understatement that management finally come to the table. Our contract had been amendable seven years.
Pilots really can be their own worst enemies.
At this point not picking up incentive trips would be more detrimental to us getting a contract then picking them up. There should be no blame for people picking up trips or new hires taking jobs. The only blame is with our immoral management. They only care about lining their pockets and don’t care about their employees. Remember where your anger should be pointed.
We had the same frustrating thing happen at my regional - as long as people were applying, no contract. It was only when the well had dried up and “behind the power curve” became an understatement that management finally come to the table. Our contract had been amendable seven years.
Pilots really can be their own worst enemies.
06-16-2018 | 12:21 PM
#15
Line Holder
Joined: Nov 2017
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From: A300
Agree or disagree, this entire discussion is better had over a beer than on a public forum. Let's just drop it. Mission of the OP troll accomplished. Everyone keep doing what you're doing and don't do anything stupid this close to the finish line.
06-16-2018 | 01:30 PM
#16
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How close are we again?
06-16-2018 | 01:49 PM
#17
Line Holder
Joined: Feb 2014
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From: Lineholder
There is a negotiations thread.
06-16-2018 | 01:50 PM
#18
Line Holder
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From: A300
06-16-2018 | 02:49 PM
#19
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