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Old 03-30-2022, 05:44 AM
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The more you push back; the more it sounds like you’ve something to hide. TOGALOCK gave you a superb explanation and you’re still bauking.
Yes. F9 is hiring like gangbusters, as is every airline in the country. We have our faults, but our hiring process is robust. It screens out people who’ll be difficult later.
There’s little point arguing with a prospective employers due diligence. You’ll just be unhappy later..
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Old 03-30-2022, 05:49 AM
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I don’t understand why you are so defensive about Frontier requiring a logbook check. Every airline has done this in every interview for decades. Is it also dumb that they make candidates interview at all? I mean, they need pilots, why would they turn someone away just because they don’t have the best personality??
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Old 03-30-2022, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Punkah Louvre View Post
The more you push back; the more it sounds like you’ve something to hide. TOGALOCK gave you a superb explanation and you’re still bauking.
Yes. F9 is hiring like gangbusters, as is every airline in the country. We have our faults, but our hiring process is robust. It screens out people who’ll be difficult later.
There’s little point arguing with a prospective employers due diligence. You’ll just be unhappy later..
Sorry for disagreeing and having an opinion, the horror! I have nothing to hide, just hate having my time wasted by pointless exercises in futility.

If I apply to a company, any company and I don’t get hired I don’t really care, it’s not one of those things that has ever bothered me. I like life kept simple and easy.

I would rather join a company where 2 pilots sit down and just talk, see if it’s a fit for either party and go from there. I’m old school in that way.

Just treat us like adults for gods sake, not a lot to ask for. Maybe I should take my high school reports along as well…just in case.
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Old 03-30-2022, 05:56 AM
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If a prospective employer whom I want to work for requires me to do 10 jumping jacks to see if I’m physically fit, by God I’m going to do 10 awesome jumping jacks. I’ll certainly complain and question their possible stupidity though.
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Old 03-30-2022, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Egg320 View Post
Sorry for disagreeing and having an opinion, the horror! I have nothing to hide, just hate having my time wasted by pointless exercises in futility.

If I apply to a company, any company and I don’t get hired I don’t really care, it’s not one of those things that has ever bothered me. I like life kept simple and easy.

I would rather join a company where 2 pilots sit down and just talk, see if it’s a fit for either party and go from there. I’m old school in that way.

Just treat us like adults for gods sake, not a lot to ask for. Maybe I should take my high school reports along as well…just in case.
Dude...

First of all, Frontier is going to hand you the keys to a 100 Million dollar jet with 230 people on it. They want to trust you. Asking to look at your logbook is really not asking that much.

Second, the aircraft logbook is a constant source if problems at every airline. Missing signatures, incorrectly applied MELs, missed inspections, various checks missed, etc. It's a constant issue across the industry. If Frontier hires you, you will eventually be a Captain and will be required to do the logbook. They want to see that you don't have a logbook riddled with mistakes. That's all. It's not a big deal.

During a job interview the company only has so much time and resources to try and find out what kind of an employee you will be. They can't fly with you, ask your previous fellow pilots about you, they can only do so much. The logbook is just a small glimpse into who you are. Assuming your logbook isn't a complete disaster, it's a total non event.

But if you have missing data, miscalculated numbers, or whatever it could be an issue.

If you can't undestand that, it can't be explained to you.
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Old 03-30-2022, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900 View Post
Dude...

First of all, Frontier is going to hand you the keys to a 100 Million dollar jet with 230 people on it. They want to trust you. Asking to look at your logbook is really not asking that much.

Second, the aircraft logbook is a constant source if problems at every airline. Missing signatures, incorrectly applied MELs, missed inspections, various checks missed, etc. It's a constant issue across the industry. If Frontier hires you, you will eventually be a Captain and will be required to do the logbook. They want to see that you don't have a logbook riddled with mistakes. That's all. It's not a big deal.

During a job interview the company only has so much time and resources to try and find out what kind of an employee you will be. They can't fly with you, ask your previous fellow pilots about you, they can only do so much. The logbook is just a small glimpse into who you are. Assuming your logbook isn't a complete disaster, it's a total non event.

But if you have missing data, miscalculated numbers, or whatever it could be an issue.

If you can't undestand that, it can't be explained to you.
Sensitive much!
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Old 03-30-2022, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Egg320 View Post
Sensitive much!
Good luck with your interview. And logbook check
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Old 03-30-2022, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Egg320 View Post
Sensitive much!
Why are you interested in F9 if you've interviewed and been hired by Atlas?
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Old 03-30-2022, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900 View Post
Good luck with your interview. And logbook check
logbooks. APC posting histories. Useless… unless you’re a recruiter and just found a way to save a positive space seat to Denver…
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Old 03-30-2022, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900 View Post
Good luck with your interview. And logbook check
Pretty sure he already interviewed and got turned down…
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