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Old 03-28-2022, 02:44 PM
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How junior is PHL...what are the chances of getting it right out of training?
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Old 03-28-2022, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post



Oh, he isnít LYING, what heís doing is making a statement against interest so that in a civil suit by new hires as a group their getting damages from the union is a slam-dunk.Same for complaining to the NLRB that your union has failed in its obligation to treat you fairly.
You are APC's "Man of La Mancha".
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Old 03-28-2022, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BiffleBalls View Post
You are APC's "Man of La Mancha".
Seriously, would you want to take this to a hearing AFTER the alleged public statement? Itís the epitome of unequal representation to benefit people who donít personally suffer from it. Itís the kind of thing where you lose in the court of public opinion even if you sneak it by in a court of law on some technicality.

Enforcing the contract my @$$. Does anyone seriously believe if the company unilaterally declared 25% profit sharing the union would be fighting to Ďenforce the contractí rather than taking the money and running? I say, take everything they give you AND everything you can negotiate, FOR EVERYBODY.
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Old 03-28-2022, 06:28 PM
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We are not responsible to GIVE ANYTHING….. if the company wants to house and pay newbies that’s on THEM

So if and when joint CBA negotiations happens, and the company even mentions credit for new hire pay or motels, they can POUND SAND!
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Old 03-28-2022, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
Seriously, would you want to take this to a hearing AFTER the alleged public statement? Itís the epitome of unequal representation to benefit people who donít personally suffer from it. Itís the kind of thing where you lose in the court of public opinion even if you sneak it by in a court of law on some technicality.

Enforcing the contract my @$$. Does anyone seriously believe if the company unilaterally declared 25% profit sharing the union would be fighting to Ďenforce the contractí rather than taking the money and running? I say, take everything they give you AND everything you can negotiate, FOR EVERYBODY.
The first line in the main body paragraph you attached states, Your union has the duty to represent all employees. Not much of a technicality, this is where the argument simply falls flat on its face. The company (at least as of a 2 weeks ago) has not been willing to meet with the union on this subject, thus the union has been unable to represent them. Just stating law vs public opinion...nothing unequal here when they aren't even contacted before the company implements changes to the CBA.
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Old 03-29-2022, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by catrapilot View Post
Anyone going to interview next March 30th?? Do you have any last minute advice before the D-DAy?
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Old 03-29-2022, 11:28 AM
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Anyone have any idea how big the March class is?
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Old 03-29-2022, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Buspilot99 View Post
Anyone have any idea how big the March class is?
officially starts tomorrow, so should know then....planned vs reality, will be curious to see if somebody in that class posts the number, I'm sure they will.
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Old 03-29-2022, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary et al View Post
The first line in the main body paragraph you attached states, Your union has the duty to represent all employees. Not much of a technicality, this is where the argument simply falls flat on its face. The company (at least as of a 2 weeks ago) has not been willing to meet with the union on this subject, thus the union has been unable to represent them. Just stating law vs public opinion...nothing unequal here when they aren't even contacted before the company implements changes to the CBA.
The age old question - what happens when the company violates the CBA but does so in a way that benefits a certain portion of labor?

The union SHOULD object. Thatís their job - to represent everyone. A smart/crafty union will try and parlay the new benefit of the few for everyone. Itís not a slam dunk as thereís lots of moving parts and unknowns but step one is complain that the benefit wasnít discussed prior, wasnít coordinated amongst all employees and is unfair to other segments of labor.

Let the union do their jobÖ.
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Old 03-30-2022, 01:15 AM
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Is the logbook check just for those without ATP licenses or does everybody have to go thru that drama?

If so is it a general look or do you have to go there with all your checkrides, PCís etc.. highlighted for review?
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