highside78

it’s all laid out in the email you’ll receive prior to interviewing. They check everyone’s logbooks. You’ll tab checkrides.

el_duderino

Everybody goes through it. Fairly in-depth, at least compared to the regionals I interviewed with prior. Have it all clearly tabb'd, just like the interview invite says.

Egg320

Why?

What’s the point, what are they looking for?

It’s not like you can explain or remember every flight you did and if they are looking at your check-rides, PC’s etc.. what are you supposed to tell them, I did a checkride that day?

If they are looking to see if your hours are real what are they going to compare it to? Seems like a complete and utter waste of everybody’s time if you ask me.

Punkah Louvre

obviously you’re in a much better position than our recruiters who are clearly wasting your valuable time.
move along. Nothing to see here.
For anyone else; it’s part of the <wait for it> Interview .
it’s as much (at least) about the way you answer the questions, and a conversation starter….
just like the previous poster; do what the nice people who’ve invited to interview ask; and use the LB review as another chance to make a strong impression…
//PL

Egg320

Right so talk us thru this in depth logbook review and tell us what exactly is achieved by it! I’m seriously curious as to what they actually get out of it besides seeing if I know how to fill out a logbook.

Punkah Louvre

you rapidly discover your applicant is unable to digest information and show them the door.

jpso

What's achieved? Well, they gave you directions to do something and if you can't follow those directions, even for an interview, why hire you?

Listen, I question the practice too but, I think it's more about seeing you follow simple instructions than combing through your logbook during an interview.

I brought my original logbook with all check rides tabbed and a single tab at the back for endorsements. Then I printed all my latest logs on paper, punched and inserted into a binder. I gave that to them and they had no questions. It wasn't a big deal.

TOGALOCK

It has always been part of the interview process at most regionals and every interview process for any airline gig above a regional. Especially career destinations. It may seem pointless to you, but people have lost job offers because of the process. Interviewers are looking for things both big and small. On the “small” end, your attention to detail and neatness of your logbook says a lot about you. On the “big” end, interviewers are looking for signs of things like pencil whipping, maybe a failed 141 stage check that you didn’t disclose but wouldn’t be on a PRIA pull, questionable/illegal flight time (they might be very interested to hear your explanation of that SIC time you have in a piper seminole or that PIC time you logged while keeping the right seat warm in that straight wing citation despite not being type rated, but logged PIC because you were “sole manipulator” and used it in the PIC total on your application.

At the end of the day it doesn’t matter that you think it’s pointless. It’s part of the process whether you like it or not. Which, incidentally, is also part of what is being looked for. Are you going to half a** it just because you don’t agree with it? There are many ways to fly a plane, but the company about to hire you and sign your paychecks has THEIR way they want you to do it. Are you going to do it the way they tell you, even though you don’t like or agree with their SOPs that have been blessed by the FAA? Or, are you going to just go ahead and do it YOUR less pointless way?

The whole thing is a non event that you’re making out to be like it’s some sort of interrogation. It was many years back so the process may have changed, but my panel interview consisted of three people. Two asking me questions and the third sat at the end of the table thumbing through my logbooks. Not a single question was ever asked, but it showed I had enough attention to detail and cared enough to do the simple thing they had asked me to do. If you can’t be bothered to take five minutes of your time to slap some sticky tabs next to all of your checkrides then that says more about you than the process. Would you still be complaining if this was a Delta interview? Because they do the same thing.

You may also be interested to know that, years ago, a logbook review with the FSDO was required in order to apply for your ATP. Much for the very same reasons as listed above - Is all the flight time you are claiming legitimate flight time? If it was obvious that you pencil whipped your logbook or logged illegal time then that would be a direct contradiction of the “good moral character” requirement for the ATP and your application would be denied.. forever.

Egg320

If they want my logbooks they can have them. I’m all up to date and I even have ‘Key points’ highlighted such as check-rides etc. Follow simple instructions, great!,

However if you tossing good experienced 121 pilots aside because you you don’t like the way they do their logbooks then the airline has bigger problems than you think, especially since a logbook review has no intrinsic value whatsoever especially as you have nothing to compare it against. For all you know the pilot could have lied about his hours, you have no way of proving that.

I get what you are saying, ‘Follow simple instruction’ etc..but Frontier is not retaining or hiring enough pilots and to top it off some are discarded now because the recruiter does not like their logbook…which could be a load of made up nonsense anyway

Not the smartest recruiting technique in my book.

Egg320

Im assuming here if you are going to lie the pilot is at least smart enough to lie about his hours in a jet that is actually on his license or about flying a piper seminole that does not show 8 hour legs etc..

I have no problem with procedure and due diligence etc but it has to have some kind of intrinsic value, not some very questionable subjective value from a guy who did not like my face or what’s in my logbook even though he literally has nothing to compare it to.