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01-24-2026 | 07:37 PM

#4751

shuom

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From: 135 FO - MSP

I saw from fftpilot that CHI is 80-90% 1 day trips. How long are these days? Think they'd be doable from MSP or at least to arrive back home at MSP after the days done? I know commuting's a pain, but I'm trying to figure out how to have a base preference. I'm hoping for ATL, DEN, or DFW since those have the most 2-, 3-, and 4- day trips.

If anyone has any advice, I'm all ears.

01-25-2026 | 04:43 AM

#4752

BagMan

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Joined: Nov 2023

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Originally Posted by shuom

If you don't want to live in base then do yourself a favor and go to another airline. It's possible to do which is the problem. You will be miserable. It takes roughly 9-10 hours to do a 5 hour turn assuming there is no delays. All of those multi day trips are taken by high seniority people. 95% of what you would be doing is dayturns with an occasional 10 hour 3 day.

Don't do it

01-25-2026 | 06:15 AM

#4753

InformationMike

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Joined: Feb 2020

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BagMan

You will be miserable. Don't do it

These are very kind words. Seriously.

01-25-2026 | 06:29 AM

#4754

Mooneyguy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shuom

there is no advice that can be given except if you want multi day trips and some guarantee your base will still be around in a year go elsewhere. There have been many rumors floating by AL that Dempsey thinks we have too many bases. Also that Dempsey wants to increase turns. Of course not sure how increasing turns works if you close bases. No one here can tell you what you can expect because we don’t know what to expect. Obviously the new boss is going to want to p1ss on a tree and make his mark.

01-25-2026 | 06:33 AM

#4755

ginntonic

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mooneyguy

There have been many rumors floating by AL that Dempsey thinks we have too many bases.

Not rumor. I've personally listened to AL say exactly that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mooneyguy

Also that Dempsey wants to increase turns.

Same rumor I'm hearing.

01-25-2026 | 06:40 AM

#4756

Mooneyguy

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Originally Posted by ginntonic

Not rumor. I've personally listened to AL say exactly that.

Same rumor I'm hearing.

I only say rumor because I don’t believe anyone except Jimmy himself knows the truth of what is to come. Our management has been notorious for using disinformation.

01-25-2026 | 07:08 AM

#4757

Stayontarget

Almost there

Joined: Apr 2021

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ginntonic

Not rumor. I've personally listened to AL say exactly that.

Same rumor I'm hearing.

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Originally Posted by Mooneyguy

I only say rumor because I don’t believe anyone except Jimmy himself knows the truth of what is to come. Our management has been notorious for using disinformation.

Ya I think we’ve all heard AL say that in recurrent by now. I also like to remember he directly said the LOAs offered during the summer were a mistake. Nice to hear somebody admit their error.

Im betting it will take some time for everybody to be on the same page. It’s not like Barry had the leadership to do that.

01-25-2026 | 07:54 AM

#4758

dracir1

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Too many bases? More turns? Not possible by simple math. I don't have the specifics but if DEN has access to 16 gates for overnight parking, CHI has 4-5, DFW has 7-8, SJU has 4-5, PHL 10, LAS 10, MCO 12, TPA 6, PHX 6, MIA 6 and another 10-20 spaced out of ramp parking, that's almost 1/2 the aircraft NOT at a base.

And the desire is to reduce bases while increasing fleet size?

Is this the case of another inept CEO w/ unobtainable ideas and kneejerk reactions to latest trends? Do we have a 5 year plan (or further)?

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01-25-2026 | 08:08 AM

#4759

LinaPeru

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dracir1

Too many bases? More turns? Not possible by simple math.
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And the desire is to reduce bases while increasing fleet size?

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I agree with this statement. It would’ve made more sense for him to say “too many bases, and we need more multi day trips.”

unless you’re planning on getting more real estate at the hubs to park planes overnight, or you plan on dramatically increasing redeye flights, I’d be interested to see how you get those two thinks to coincide

he might be planning on increasing utilization somehow. But, he somehow has to determine which routes will be profitable. And that’s a story as old as time with this company.