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Old 01-26-2026 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by fivebyfive
Honest question. At this point does anybody believe MM should be negotiating on behalf of the pilot group?
I do. I've known him over 20 years. I trust him.
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Old 01-26-2026 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
I don't think he ever said he was going to give us the plan. He just asked for time to get a plan together, not to deliver it to us.
You keep mentioning this . . . why does someone who's the president and been w/ the company for 7+ years need 30 days? And, why would anyone ask for 30 days to plan if they were never going to share it?
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Old 01-27-2026 | 05:47 AM
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I would guess that he is on his knees begging the powers that be for a NK liquidation is “his plan”
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Old 01-27-2026 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ReserveCA
I would guess that he is on his knees begging the powers that be for a NK liquidation is “his plan”

sadly this is true
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Old 01-28-2026 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dracir1
You keep mentioning this . . . why does someone who's the president and been w/ the company for 7+ years need 30 days? And, why would anyone ask for 30 days to plan if they were never going to share it?
That's a fair question. I'm guessin Biffle was let go with no notice, so Dempsey was thrown into the hot seat with no warning. So, Im ok with giving him the 30 days.

I hope he shares a plan with us, but I suspect he won't. Heck, any communication would be nice.
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Old 01-29-2026 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ReserveCA
I would guess that he is on his knees begging the powers that be for a NK liquidation is “his plan”
The “looking to buy NK” was just to look at the books. F9 has a great idea of what not to do. There’s no doubt if NK folds, F9 benefits. Lots of planes on order to handle. Fares will probably go up with less ULCC competition. Definitely a win for F9. Can’t see Franke giving a decent contract unless there’s money to give. Just be smarter than NK and don’t price out of a job.
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Old 01-29-2026 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by DirkDiggler9999
The “looking to buy NK” was just to look at the books. F9 has a great idea of what not to do. There’s no doubt if NK folds, F9 benefits. Lots of planes on order to handle. Fares will probably go up with less ULCC competition. Definitely a win for F9. Can’t see Franke giving a decent contract unless there’s money to give. Just be smarter than NK and don’t price out of a job.
Although I mostly agree, I believe they genuinely were looking for a deal with NK. Watching NK management from the outside over the last couple year, they seem to be in serious denial or at least experiencing one or more "hazardous attitudes". Their first bankruptcy was Einstein's definition of insanity. They didn't structurally change anything with the airline, just screwed the shareholders. I remember reading about their "bloodless" bankruptcy wondering how they expect anything to be different when they exit. NK looks to be on at least plan "C" or "D" on how to exit, and it's not looking good. Good luck to everyone there and I always think "but for the grace of god I".
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Old 01-29-2026 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DirkDiggler9999
The “looking to buy NK” was just to look at the books. F9 has a great idea of what not to do. There’s no doubt if NK folds, F9 benefits. Lots of planes on order to handle. Fares will probably go up with less ULCC competition. Definitely a win for F9. Can’t see Franke giving a decent contract unless there’s money to give. Just be smarter than NK and don’t price out of a job.
This is not true.

Being the only ULCC hurts us. The Big 4 now only have to price match 1 carrier instead of 2. And, you think Atlanta, Houston or Dallas airports are gonna sell their vacant gates to us? We may get a gate or two in MCO but unless we want to move into FLL or ACY, I'd suspect F9 now becomes even more easy for the bigger airlines to squeeze out.

I hope I'm wrong but history generally proves otherwise.
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Old 01-29-2026 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dracir1
This is not true.

Being the only ULCC hurts us. The Big 4 now only have to price match 1 carrier instead of 2. And, you think Atlanta, Houston or Dallas airports are gonna sell their vacant gates to us? We may get a gate or two in MCO but unless we want to move into FLL or ACY, I'd suspect F9 now becomes even more easy for the bigger airlines to squeeze out.

I hope I'm wrong but history generally proves otherwise.
ATL offered to let us buy southwest divestment earlier in 2025. BB decided it was more cost effective to just use them as priority community gates

it’s the same reason we are getting rid of E gates and moving too C gates. Delta wants them for whatever reason and the C gates coming are cheaper…

trip over a dollar to pick up a penny… we will see what JD will do going forward
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Old 01-30-2026 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by westcoastj
ATL offered to let us EVERYONE buy southwest divestment earlier in 2025. BB decided it was more cost effective TOO EXPENSIVE AND DECIDED to just use them as priority community gates

it’s the same reason we are getting rid of E gates and moving too C gates. Delta wants them for whatever reason TO KEEP OUR GATE TOTAL DOWN AND BECAUSE THEY ARE BETTER GATES and the C gates coming are cheaper…

trip over a dollar to pick up a penny… we will see what JD will do going forward
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