WaterRooster

Block hours better come back... thats the catch here

Aero1900

I believe better days are ahead. I believe travel demand will steadily increase. I believe Frontier will do very well.

But we ain't hiring no 600 pilots in a year.

turbojet28

I’ve got to agree with you here. There is no possible way that we are hiring anywhere close to 600 pilots in 2021. I will honestly consider it a win if it’s closer to 100. I, too, am much more optimistic about our future as a whole, but reality has to step in at some point as well.

RustyChain

In true pilot fashion, watch this. No more getting paid to stay home? You call that good news? We are gonna be short staffed and all have to fly 90 hours a month all summer. We are lways getting screwed.

Aero1900

Haha, yep. The pendulum keeps swinging

singlepilot

I believe deliveries have been updated.
only supposed to net 9 birds in 2021 now.

Aero1900

Really? Hadn't heard that. If so, cut my hiring prediction in half

WaterRooster

Add in 319’s possibly not coming back and the hiring may freeze

hockeypilot44

Things will be bad for awhile. We're heading into a depression. Everyone's so focused on the virus and getting a vaccine with no regards to the economic damage that has been done. The hotel, bar, and entertainment industries have been decimated. Some states are making sure their restaurant industries are decimated also.

My favorite is after decimating the industries and killing off all the low paying jobs, the next step is to raise minimum wage to $15 per hour so the jobs don't come back.

We're well past the point of fast recovery. It's going to take 5-10 years to come out of this.

TOGALOCK

Where did that info come from? Honestly, it wouldn't be all bad if true. We probably really would need to hire close to 600 pilots to staff the 2020 deliveries, the 2020 deferred deliveries in 2021 and the originally scheduled 2021 deliveries (assuming block hours would return and go up proportionately). There is just no way that could happen. I predict 250-300 new hires at best in 2021 and that's being overly optimistic. Like Turbojet said above... optimism is great, but it needs to be grounded in what is realistic.

That wouldn't hurt things too badly. We only have four of them left in the fleet and, according to the active fleet data sheet, are scheduled for lease return in December of '21 anyway. That's not to say that they wouldn't renew the lease, but I'm sure their decision about them is most likely already decided.

Then I can sleep well at night knowing that F9's business model focuses on people looking to travel as economically as possible; not international travel and high priced premium class tickets.