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shrsailplanes 10-19-2022 11:07 AM

Thanks for the replies. That helped me make my decision.

Stayontarget 10-19-2022 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by shrsailplanes (Post 3516075)
Thanks for the replies. That helped me make my decision.

No problem. What did you need to decide on out of curiosity?

shrsailplanes 10-19-2022 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by Stayontarget (Post 3516097)
No problem. What did you need to decide on out of curiosity?

if I would accept their CJO.

JoeFever1 10-19-2022 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by shrsailplanes (Post 3516133)
if I would accept their CJO.

Wellllllll???

Being worried about bases growing and shrinking is more of a nuanced conversation. You live in MIA? Prob wouldn’t come depending on your alternatives, specifically NK/AA. Live near any other base I wouldn’t be AS concerned especially MCO and LAS.
Also depends on your other options. I wouldn’t turn down F9 to stay at a regional or similar but that’s just my opinion.

shrsailplanes 10-19-2022 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by JoeFever1 (Post 3516152)
Wellllllll???

Being worried about bases growing and shrinking is more of a nuanced conversation. You live in MIA? Prob wouldn’t come depending on your alternatives, specifically NK/AA. Live near any other base I wouldn’t be AS concerned especially MCO and LAS.
Also depends on your other options. I wouldn’t turn down F9 to stay at a regional or similar but that’s just my opinion.

I currently live in PHX. I think I will end up stuck commuting and not get into PHX. Hard pass.

Broing 10-19-2022 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by shrsailplanes (Post 3516161)
I currently live in PHX. I think I will end up stuck commuting and not get into PHX. Hard pass.

I’m a Aug class hire. I got LAS based through January. The next vacancy for PHX has +20 FO slots in for the month of February. It’s very possible that even the Sep and Oct classes will get PHX options.

I should get PHX for February and when it comes down to brass tax, IOE should take up all of November, with a realistic commute of 2 months to LAS. You pair this with a 2-3 year upgrade and over 40% day trips, and it isn’t a bad trade off whatsoever, especially in comparison to Alegiant if you’re into a PHX base with day trips.

Phoenix is supposed to grow to around 200 pilots. It’s at 117 currently so again I don’t think you’d have any issues getting into PHX if you get into a class this year or early next…

Swapapotamoose 10-19-2022 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by stang (Post 3515842)
Some have. It's still building up with no idea what the plan is for how large. Bids are for 3 months in the future. So this Octobers vacancy bid is for base transfer effective Feb 1 for example.

Warning on all of this, MIA was being built up but now cut in 1/2 - so things are very dynamic at F9.

I heard AA was using their connections in the local government to have Dade county apply pressure on F9. Threatening to reduce slots because of F9’s performance. Total BS if it’s true.

DumboDrop 10-19-2022 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by Swapapotamoose (Post 3516194)
I heard AA was using their connections in the local government to have Dade county apply pressure on F9. Threatening to reduce slots because of F9’s performance. Total BS if it’s true.

I believe it. Maybe we should get our sh!t together.

Stayontarget 10-19-2022 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by shrsailplanes (Post 3516161)
I currently live in PHX. I think I will end up stuck commuting and not get into PHX. Hard pass.

Ah. Perhaps my posts came off too negative but as a F9 west coaster I would advise you to reconsider. Even if PHX were to close, which is highly unlikely in the short term considering it hasn’t even opened yet, Vegas is an easy commute and junior. Vegas has nearly doubled in size in less than a half year and Phoenix just grew 20% in one month. Not exactly closing the doors out west.

Even if you get here and don’t get PHX or don’t like it here we are pretty much a golden ticket two the other two, maybe three, airlines that are based in PHX.

I just ran the numbers and it currently takes two months to hold PHX. Vegas and PHL are most junior. That doesn’t include the 20% growth that is scheduled to happen next month. My guess is you will be able to be in PHX and live a comfortable life.

JoeFever1 10-19-2022 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by shrsailplanes (Post 3516161)
I currently live in PHX. I think I will end up stuck commuting and not get into PHX. Hard pass.

I just want to make sure I got this right…because you can’t get PHX out of training you are gonna pass on a multi million dollar career path? Even though PHX is brand new, not full, and guys are getting it just a few months later? On second thought maybe you are making the right choice..


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