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Xdashdriver 10-19-2022 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by shrsailplanes (Post 3516161)
I currently live in PHX. I think I will end up stuck commuting and not get into PHX. Hard pass.

The most junior FO awarded PHX isn't even out of training yet.

Subieguy14 10-19-2022 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by shrsailplanes (Post 3516161)
I currently live in PHX. I think I will end up stuck commuting and not get into PHX. Hard pass.

People are damn near getting PHX out of training or in it. You should come here if you have the chance. Passing because you have to commute for a month or two is a terrible reason. I could understand living in DEN and not wanting to commute... But, you live in a junior base and right next to another junior base. (Both of which are growing)

madmax757 10-19-2022 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by singlepilot (Post 3515969)
yup, guy I know moved from LAS to upgrade in MIA. Bought a house, lived in it for a month and got displaced to mco. Awful, and shows the companies lack of regard and direction.

Although I feel bad for anyone who is in that situation. After being here a number of years and seeing how things roll around here, I would recommend if you moved to one of the new bases to NOT buy a house for a while and see how things go with the base. Right now, it seems the "safe" places to consider if you want to buy is LAS, MCO, and PHL. Just my 2 cents.

As far as PHX is concerned, it hasn't even opened yet. Maybe AA or SWA will match fares and run us out of town. So, unless you already live there, I wouldn't buy anything for a while unless prices crash and it's a smoking deal.

monkeybrains 10-19-2022 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by JoeFever1 (Post 3516254)
I just want to make sure I got this right…because you can’t get PHX out of training you are gonna pass on a multi million dollar career path? Even though PHX is brand new, not full, and guys are getting it just a few months later? On second thought maybe you are making the right choice..

There are a whole bunch of multi-million dollar careers for pilots out there, and every one of them comes with less toxic and more adept management groups. As far as PHX goes, I don’t see it being viable in the long term for F9, but in fairness that isn’t based on any intrinsic data, just don’t see it working.

JoeFever1 10-19-2022 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by monkeybrains (Post 3516336)
There are a whole bunch of multi-million dollar careers for pilots out there, and every one of them comes with less toxic and more adept management groups. As far as PHX goes, I don’t see it being viable in the long term for F9, but in fairness that isn’t based on any intrinsic data, just don’t see it working.

So he should stay at a regional? Not saying he can’t go anywhere else eventually, but it’s not the worst place to be stuck if the music stops.

Aero1900 10-19-2022 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by monkeybrains (Post 3516336)
There are a whole bunch of multi-million dollar careers for pilots out there, and every one of them comes with less toxic and more adept management groups. As far as PHX goes, I don’t see it being viable in the long term for F9, but in fairness that isn’t based on any intrinsic data, just don’t see it working.

You don't see PHX working?

Franke knows PHX, he's got a bit of experience there. It's a great location to have a base. You can cover the west coast during the day and then redeye the planes to the east coast at night. It's also a giant and fast growing city.

PHX should work out just fine

JoeFever1 10-19-2022 07:21 PM

Heavy mx too

TroutSlayer 10-19-2022 09:14 PM

There’s no good reason to come here other than to get a type rating and move on. Unless you live in MCO or LAS (or want to be a DEN FO for 25 years) the base situation is precarious at best. Just take the job offer, then apply to United, Delta, wherever and move on. They are now constantly reducing bases to staff others and displacing. And it’s only going to worse. I’m an 8 year CA and they closed my base this year. It completely screwed me. I just finished building a house here and moved in last week. Now that I have time again I’m updating my logbook and applying at United. Don’t be like me. This place will screw you over.

dracir1 10-20-2022 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by monkeybrains (Post 3516336)
As far as PHX goes, I don’t see it being viable in the long term for F9, but in fairness that isn’t based on any intrinsic data, just don’t see it working.

F9 has been targeting AA bases for a while now. Dallas will open next year. There’s a reason…

Phx will be fine.

monkeybrains 10-20-2022 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 3516361)
You don't see PHX working?

Franke knows PHX, he's got a bit of experience there. It's a great location to have a base. You can cover the west coast during the day and then redeye the planes to the east coast at night. It's also a giant and fast growing city.

PHX should work out just fine

You can do that in LAS too, time will tell.


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