not a 117 extension…. Into a day 5 due to wx….

He also noted a few calls ago that he wished he got 330s when he had the chance for long haul intl flying..... lol

This was when he was asked if there was a chance we try and get in on the intl longhaul/business stuff.

How does JetBlue do it?

Possibly worse.

AFAIK, or from what I have seen, it is a 3 day pairing where you fly out, then fly back. Not sure the credit or whatnot, but it is a redeye through and through.

Ours would be a redeye 3 day with 10hrs pay because of our crap 3.5:1 rig and no min day.

I got some bad news. While the dues reduction is nice, unless ALPA decides to vote in a Master Seniority List to allow pilots to more easily move carriers, I don't think anyone here really cares.

Congrats to AA pilots.

yeah. No. I’d vote no in a heartbeat on people trying to change company and keep their left seat. Company loyalty is career protection for career progression. No thanks. Wrong answer dude.

Well I didn't say I was in favor of it, dude. I was making a different point.

That is short sighted thinking.
We can only have a fragmented Union franchises until that happens.
I would also imagine there would be a company seniority and an alpa seniority. Keep your type/seat and change companies freely. The newest guy goes to the bottom of the list for that particular type/seat.

Pay based on type and longevity and the ability to move from one company to another with only indoc. This would require ALPA to handle the training. Uniform pilots, uniform training and we become more like Line replaceable parts. Plug and play so to speak. I could imagine better SOPs, Training provided by the wealth of experience ALPA has to offer. Compared to the bargain basement "small footprint" training we have now.

Most importantly Instead of negotiating with a group of 2000 pilots Management would be negotiating with THE Pilot Union. XYZ company wants to drag out negotiations poof all your senior pilots are gone and you will need to pay ALPA to train up some new crews. Job mobility like that is leverage that we simply don't have now. What we do have now is a game of Thrones type of Feudal system where you pledge your future career to a particular Airline and hope to god they don't make bad bets or hire some crackpot CEO. If we don't start making some plays and gain some yardage we are going to be single pilot then no pilot in the next 30 years.

There is a lot of upside potential here. it's a more stable predictable path probably a longer one as well, But any one spending time on this site now has nothing to worry about. That said there is probably a 5% chance of this happening ever.

YES this.

Very few other countries in the world make you start over from the bottom - you make the left seat, you're a left seater forever....