How long for a contract?
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Talk to an airline interview prep company. They have experience with these kinds of things. It doesn’t have to be the end of your career. It may feel like that now but I bet it’s just a bump on the road. If it had been bad enough they would have fired you.
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[QUOTE=redhot;3916262]so what do we think next week will hold on their economic proposal. Obviously it will be a low ball proposal, but this seams like actual progress.
any know on average how long it takes to get to the “finish line”? It feels like the gun hasn’t even went off yet with progress over the last 1.5 years but contracts tend to only take a couple real weeks once both parties want to get a deal ironed out.
I think by end of 2026 is becoming more realistic. Lock in rates / contract before early openers at legacy’s the following year and then after.[/QUOTE
I see two possible scenarios:
1. The company offered rates within proximity of our ask but with major hits in every other section. So now the union has to do some real thinking.
2. The company offered concessions in every section, including pay, and they are insisting the survival of the company rests on pilots playing ball. The union now has to do some real thinking and prepare for next steps.
I see scenario 2 as more plausible. But, who knows? Well find out soon enough. ]
any know on average how long it takes to get to the “finish line”? It feels like the gun hasn’t even went off yet with progress over the last 1.5 years but contracts tend to only take a couple real weeks once both parties want to get a deal ironed out.
I think by end of 2026 is becoming more realistic. Lock in rates / contract before early openers at legacy’s the following year and then after.[/QUOTE
I see two possible scenarios:
1. The company offered rates within proximity of our ask but with major hits in every other section. So now the union has to do some real thinking.
2. The company offered concessions in every section, including pay, and they are insisting the survival of the company rests on pilots playing ball. The union now has to do some real thinking and prepare for next steps.
I see scenario 2 as more plausible. But, who knows? Well find out soon enough. ]
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[QUOTE=CGLimits;3916455]
My guess as well. No real reason for scenario 1 currently unless they have had a sudden change of heart so scenario 2 matching Spirit rates and a pawn stars style “this is the best I can do.” Just enough to placate the mediator and show progress.
so what do we think next week will hold on their economic proposal. Obviously it will be a low ball proposal, but this seams like actual progress.
any know on average how long it takes to get to the “finish line”? It feels like the gun hasn’t even went off yet with progress over the last 1.5 years but contracts tend to only take a couple real weeks once both parties want to get a deal ironed out.
I think by end of 2026 is becoming more realistic. Lock in rates / contract before early openers at legacy’s the following year and then after.[/QUOTE
I see two possible scenarios:
1. The company offered rates within proximity of our ask but with major hits in every other section. So now the union has to do some real thinking.
2. The company offered concessions in every section, including pay, and they are insisting the survival of the company rests on pilots playing ball. The union now has to do some real thinking and prepare for next steps.
I see scenario 2 as more plausible. But, who knows? Well find out soon enough. ]
any know on average how long it takes to get to the “finish line”? It feels like the gun hasn’t even went off yet with progress over the last 1.5 years but contracts tend to only take a couple real weeks once both parties want to get a deal ironed out.
I think by end of 2026 is becoming more realistic. Lock in rates / contract before early openers at legacy’s the following year and then after.[/QUOTE
I see two possible scenarios:
1. The company offered rates within proximity of our ask but with major hits in every other section. So now the union has to do some real thinking.
2. The company offered concessions in every section, including pay, and they are insisting the survival of the company rests on pilots playing ball. The union now has to do some real thinking and prepare for next steps.
I see scenario 2 as more plausible. But, who knows? Well find out soon enough. ]
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[QUOTE=Stayontarget;3916471]
We won’t even match spirit is my guess. Given how they think we are the scum of the earth and aren’t worth anything I’d be shocked to see anything close to what spirit has.
We won’t even match spirit is my guess. Given how they think we are the scum of the earth and aren’t worth anything I’d be shocked to see anything close to what spirit has.
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[QUOTE=av8nallday;3916522]A little dramatic there. Early on they said our peers are Sun Country, Spirit, and Allegiant so that’s what should be expected from them.
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Wanna place a bet on it? I mean in all seriousness let’s not forget who we are dealing with. They wanted concessions when the economy was booming and this industry set records. We are not in the same environment. It’ll be such a low ball offer you will come back and say I can’t believe I thought you were being “a little dramatic” but hey prove me wrong! Im all for that.
Wanna place a bet on it? I mean in all seriousness let’s not forget who we are dealing with. They wanted concessions when the economy was booming and this industry set records. We are not in the same environment. It’ll be such a low ball offer you will come back and say I can’t believe I thought you were being “a little dramatic” but hey prove me wrong! Im all for that.
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