Ok, a couple of things.

First, your math is incorrect. There are quite a few scenarios in which your DH costs don't compute - namely for anyone who DHs on F9. Much like other airlines, pilots are being DH'd all over the place at the cost of perhaps kicking off 1-2 revenue passengers if the flight is full. TBH, if we had an improved network (which has been suggested), those costs would be much less. Your hotel and per diem costs are probably good - that's where a bulk of the savings would come from. The one other cost that's NOT included is the cost of the sim - how much more expensive (or cheaper) is it to rent 320 sims in our bases? We simply don't have enough info to properly estimate.

But, your point is valid. IT IS WORTH SOMETHING. How much - we don't need to be concerned about it. As long as it has SOME value, it is leverage. The company could just implement it but the LOA was needed in order to work out the terms of how it would be implemented and we need smart negotiators to ensure our utmost "safety" in those conditions. The last thing we want is a training system that increases our vulnerability in jeopardy events. In many ways, IF AQP was to be implemented, we needed an LOA to do so. Anything the company just "came up with" would've probably been poor for the pilot group.

This shouldn't be our concern. We don't need to nickel and dime every cost saving measure that's invented. The fact that it has some value should be used to negotiate the best contract rates and conditions we can. In other words, the pilots get XYZ and the company gets AQP (and other savings they propose). I really don't have a problem w/ any company trying to save money - as long as I'm not adversely affected AND have negotiated rates that I agree to.

Which brings up the last part of all this. AQP, the potential merger and negotiations have led us to where we are today. Two of the three NC members were recalled - from what I understand, w/o any notice/warning or chance to make a statement - and the remaining member just resigned. We have recall votes going on in specific LECs because of what has clearly become a two-sided union. I have no one to blame but MM; it happened under his watch and despite how nice of a guy he is, his leadership (or lack thereof) as well as poor decision making has led to this.

The way forward will be long and arduous. The one positive thing that will probably result from this - increased attrition - is probably the greatest leverage that we have.

This pilot group was due for a correction. It seems like this is it.

 

How exactly is the company saving on hotels and per diem? One more time. This would not and does not give the company the ability to do recurrent training in other domiciles. Most of those numbers are incorrect. Way too much in that post to go back and forth on.

 

Fewer total events?

 

I’ll buy that but do we know the footprint? These are questions for reps although I don’t think at this point we’re going to be negotiating anyhow.

 

I don’t blame MM. sometimes you just can’t fix stupid. You give stupid just enough power, and that’s where you end up, blown up to pieces. I blame the bombers, not the guy who had been fighting to protect the group from them.

 

By fight, do you mean appease them by his own admission…. And by protect the pilot group you mean resign and give up? This was a moment to lead, and we didn’t get leadership, we got 18 pages of justifications (some accountability taken) and a podcast.

 

Explain how you work with 50% of your group, that holds roll call majority, whose only intention/goal is to burn the entire establishment to the ground?