Originally Posted by F9pilot15

I’m going to hesitantly add my two cents here.

My time at Frontier has grossly underwhelmed. However at least I’ve had a lot more time off than I would’ve had at the big boys.

Now regarding negotiations with a private equity fund. Never forget that they despise unions and that they are going to always attempt to belittle and humiliate the workforce, regardless of the industry. You are worth what you are willing to accept and in their eyes, you are not worth a penny more. My ex was a private equity attorney and would frequently work with PE funds. They would sit around the table and laugh about the ways they would try to demoralize the group. The reason for this is pretty simple, if you can convince a work group that they are worth less, it makes it much easier to sell the company as your labor price is lower. Of course the average PE fund holds a company for about five years and we are going on 12. My basic argument will always be that when employed by a private equity group we need to stand our ground and always remember that we are always worth what we contribute to this company. God bless the day that we merge, and we are no longer burdened by this group.

Originally Posted by ReserveCA

if I had 5+ years I would be doing everything I could to get out.
but I don’t. 🫤🫡

Originally Posted by ReserveCA

Come on down! You’re the next contestant on the BBB (Barry Biffles B!tch) clown show!
be prepared to be shown no respect, no support, and a I don’t give a crap gate and ramp crew!

But wait…….. you also get a $60,000 training contract!

remember CYA

Originally Posted by spooldup

I have more than 30 and I love it here. Mostly. The positives of this job outweigh the negatives on my life.

Not saying that I love everything about this place, I definitely want an industry standard contract and the company needs to hold themselves accountable for their actions instead of blaming it on literally anything else.

Originally Posted by PFranz

I’m interested to hear what you love about this place. Lido? Lack of catering? Amazing gate agents? Management?
Do we have great crews? Yes, but there’s solid people at every airline.
Our schedule flexibility? At this moment, I’d argue we may have the worst, good luck swapping any trip out before the bots snag all the opentime or hold trips hostage on the trade board.
If you live in one of our bases that isn’t a legacy base, I can see a reason for staying.
If you’re thinking about coming here to accumulate hours before heading to a legacy, good luck

Originally Posted by hercretired

Its negotiations 101. We sent them 2023 Delta rates in our proposal. They counter 18 months later with Allegiant rates. In the end, we will be somewhere in the middle. But the most important piece of what I just said is 18 months later. That's how the company will drag their feet. That's how they play the game. They just showed the arbitrator that they are "negotiating". This is going to drag on for years and years. Contract 2033 here we come

In other news, the "Delta rates we sent them" become amendable for Delta on December 31, 2026

Originally Posted by hercretired

Its negotiations 101. We sent them 2023 Delta rates in our proposal. They counter 18 months later with Allegiant rates. In the end, we will be somewhere in the middle. But the most important piece of what I just said is 18 months later. That's how the company will drag their feet. That's how they play the game. They just showed the arbitrator that they are "negotiating". This is going to drag on for years and years. Contract 2033 here we come

In other news, the "Delta rates we sent them" become amendable for Delta on December 31, 2026

Originally Posted by taketheshot

…and will take 4 years plus to get new rates. Hopefully they don’t get through two cycles before we finish one