How long for a contract?
06-05-2025 | 04:09 PM
#1622
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No snap up clause is an instant NO vote, companies offering should be a clear reminder why to everyone. In my opinion a contract without that included is a non starter.
06-05-2025 | 06:24 PM
#1623
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we started somewhere, correct?
we did, or did not, send them 2023 Delta rates?
In 2027 (albeit slim chance, pending their own negotiations....) Delta may have entirely new pay rates.
06-05-2025 | 10:25 PM
#1625
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Unless there was another economic proposal I missed or have my dates mixed up…Sort of. The economic proposal I see was dated Nov. 28 2023 and started the pay rates in 2024. You could say Delta rates I suppose but our contract comparison has three tables for Delta rates and two for AA. We are in the neighborhood of their rates but nothing exact.
06-06-2025 | 04:27 AM
#1628
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Yes we started somewhere. A blended rate which delta doesn’t have. Our rate was higher than their 320 and lower than their 321. Snap ups from dl who went first (might have been Alaska) put everyone in the ballpark.
We have market rate adjustment language in the proposal. It’s a bit different than a snap up. Snap up if for when you go first or close to first in a cycle so you don’t just get leap frogged multiple times. This is similar but several paragraphs to explain so probably just best to go ahead a read it.
06-06-2025 | 04:30 AM
#1629
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Average of United, American, delta, swa (accounting for TFP), JetBlue. And Alaska. Or a rate table whichever is higher. I guess nobody reads union communications anymore. Hopefully we can read and understand a TA.
Last edited by fcoolaiddrinker; 06-06-2025 at 05:15 AM.
06-06-2025 | 04:55 AM
#1630
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Unless there was another economic proposal I missed or have my dates mixed up…Sort of. The economic proposal I see was dated Nov. 28 2023 and started the pay rates in 2024. You could say Delta rates I suppose but our contract comparison has three tables for Delta rates and two for AA. We are in the neighborhood of their rates but nothing exact.
Last edited by fcoolaiddrinker; 06-06-2025 at 05:21 AM.
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