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Old 01-14-2024, 06:36 AM
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For those interested in coming to F9. Just remember, smiles do not pay your bills.

Others will give some reasons to consider.
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Old 01-14-2024, 07:16 AM
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F9 customer service seems to be so lacking. I feel only so many people can be royally burned before F9 becomes the next "Spirit" meme on social media. I was given a great opportunity to come here through the cadet program, which I will respect. I was assigned a mentor, but I had a family friend already who has been a CA for 20+ years. My assigned mentor says "It's great, QOL is fantastic, stay with F9. My "other" mentor says "Go to a legacy asap".

I learned early on that money is not everything, so I'm looking for a flexible schedule. Living at base, building seniority quick, and having the days off I need. I'll take that over an extra 100k. We have a 3 year contract that if broken will need to payback a 50k bonus at the federal interest rate. My plan is after those three years, see where I feel F9 is heading. People on the internet tend to be grumpy, so I take what I read here publicly with a grain of salt. I have 35+ years of career, so I feel 3 years to decide won't kill me.
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Old 01-14-2024, 08:08 AM
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F9 customer service seems to be so lacking. I feel only so many people can be royally burned before F9 becomes the next "Spirit" meme on social media. I was given a great opportunity to come here through the cadet program, which I will respect. I was assigned a mentor, but I had a family friend already who has been a CA for 20+ years. My assigned mentor says "It's great, QOL is fantastic, stay with F9. My "other" mentor says "Go to a legacy asap".

I learned early on that money is not everything, so I'm looking for a flexible schedule. Living at base, building seniority quick, and having the days off I need. I'll take that over an extra 100k. We have a 3 year contract that if broken will need to payback a 50k bonus at the federal interest rate. My plan is after those three years, see where I feel F9 is heading. People on the internet tend to be grumpy, so I take what I read here publicly with a grain of salt. I have 35+ years of career, so I feel 3 years to decide won't kill me.
Ill take both.
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Old 01-14-2024, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Warhawker View Post
F9 customer service seems to be so lacking. I feel only so many people can be royally burned before F9 becomes the next "Spirit" meme on social media. I was given a great opportunity to come here through the cadet program, which I will respect. I was assigned a mentor, but I had a family friend already who has been a CA for 20+ years. My assigned mentor says "It's great, QOL is fantastic, stay with F9. My "other" mentor says "Go to a legacy asap".

I learned early on that money is not everything, so I'm looking for a flexible schedule. Living at base, building seniority quick, and having the days off I need. I'll take that over an extra 100k. We have a 3 year contract that if broken will need to payback a 50k bonus at the federal interest rate. My plan is after those three years, see where I feel F9 is heading. People on the internet tend to be grumpy, so I take what I read here publicly with a grain of salt. I have 35+ years of career, so I feel 3 years to decide won't kill me.
Get out now is all I can say. I’m a left seat line holder that drives to work. I am choosing to leave and commute because I don’t want to spend another 30+ years at this company. It isn’t worth it, don’t lose 3 years of legacy hiring to see how this place turns out.
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Old 01-14-2024, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by spooldup View Post
For those interested in coming to F9. Just remember, smiles do not pay your bills.

Others will give some reasons to consider.
We can kick and scream all we want on APC but it’s not going to stop the endless supply of cadets we have waiting for class. As long as we have LCA’s to give 100 hours of IOE we will not have a shortage of pilots here.
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Old 01-14-2024, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Warhawker View Post
F9 customer service seems to be so lacking. I feel only so many people can be royally burned before F9 becomes the next "Spirit" meme on social media. I was given a great opportunity to come here through the cadet program, which I will respect. I was assigned a mentor, but I had a family friend already who has been a CA for 20+ years. My assigned mentor says "It's great, QOL is fantastic, stay with F9. My "other" mentor says "Go to a legacy asap".

I learned early on that money is not everything, so I'm looking for a flexible schedule. Living at base, building seniority quick, and having the days off I need. I'll take that over an extra 100k. We have a 3 year contract that if broken will need to payback a 50k bonus at the federal interest rate. My plan is after those three years, see where I feel F9 is heading. People on the internet tend to be grumpy, so I take what I read here publicly with a grain of salt. I have 35+ years of career, so I feel 3 years to decide won't kill me.
That 50K you save now will cost you 1,000,000 + upon retirement 👀

The cost of 5000 +/- in seniority is staggering....... good luck
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Old 01-14-2024, 10:02 AM
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That 50K you save now will cost you 1,000,000 + upon retirement 👀

The cost of 5000 +/- in seniority is staggering....... good luck
Need a like button. That 50k with federal interest will cost you an insurmountable amount of money. Also, DON'T SPEND IT. Why would anyone back themselves into a corner like that?
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Old 01-14-2024, 06:55 PM
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Need a like button. That 50k with federal interest will cost you an insurmountable amount of money. Also, DON'T SPEND IT. Why would anyone back themselves into a corner like that?
I've been saying the same thing. Just parking it in an account with a higher yield than the interest rate.

My issue primarily is that I don't meet the minimums for a legacy, nor do I have an unrestricted ATP. Not sure how it will look by the time that happens.
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Old 01-15-2024, 05:08 AM
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Ill take both.
I also want both. Even if we work less. why does responsibility for more passengers, do more work to do our job, and have more put on our shoulders not warrant AT LEAST industry standard pay?
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F9 customer service seems to be so lacking. I feel only so many people can be royally burned before F9 becomes the next "Spirit" meme on social media. I was given a great opportunity to come here through the cadet program, which I will respect. I was assigned a mentor, but I had a family friend already who has been a CA for 20+ years. My assigned mentor says "It's great, QOL is fantastic, stay with F9. My "other" mentor says "Go to a legacy asap".

I learned early on that money is not everything, so I'm looking for a flexible schedule. Living at base, building seniority quick, and having the days off I need. I'll take that over an extra 100k. We have a 3 year contract that if broken will need to payback a 50k bonus at the federal interest rate. My plan is after those three years, see where I feel F9 is heading. People on the internet tend to be grumpy, so I take what I read here publicly with a grain of salt. I have 35+ years of career, so I feel 3 years to decide won't kill me.
Barry, is happy to have you. He prays that 2100 Pilots think this way and he hopes the new contract includes more "non-pay" items, because pay, and money, is not everything.
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