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Old 05-04-2026 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Herewegoagain
Seriously. These new people crack me up.
Well like everything else, not everything is black or white…when you start both at the gate, you have lower workload while taxiing, both pilots heads up and out, lower thrust settings during taxi, no asymmetrical thrust…in fact, while taxing on contaminated surfaces two engine taxi is a requirement…so…and you can always shut one or two down if you encounter a delay.
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Old 05-04-2026 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CGLimits
Well like everything else, not everything is black or white…when you start both at the gate, you have lower workload while taxiing, both pilots heads up and out, lower thrust settings during taxi, no asymmetrical thrust…in fact, while taxing on contaminated surfaces two engine taxi is a requirement…so…and you can always shut one or two down if you encounter a delay.
it’s always safer to takeoff with both engines running.

The airplane starts screaming at you when you advance the thrust levers for takeoff and you only have 1 engine and the apu running.

ask me how I know……
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Old 05-04-2026 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dracir1
Normal taxi times are about 12 minutes for both takeoff and landing. Let's use 15 mins for an example. Each engine burns approx 600 lbs / hr at idle and requires a 3 minute cool down (or 3-5 minute warm up). So, that's 12 minutes of SE taxi (saving 240 lbs of fuel) or about half of what you're claiming.
The 400 lbs I mentioned isn't just SE Taxi, It's the whole package. Not doing .80/300 everywhere, SE Taxi, Flaps 3, the works. It comes to a lot more than 400lbs



Originally Posted by CGLimits
Thank you. I start the APU 2 minutes after landing, single engine 3 after landing. As soon as the parking brake is on both engines are off. To me it’s a safety issue, period. And I am willing to bet I use less fuel than sitting at the gate for 5 min waiting to get plugged in.
I'm willing to bet you are right, but there are other costs besides fuel.


Originally Posted by CGLimits
…in fact, while taxing on contaminated surfaces two engine taxi is a requirement…so…and you can always shut one or two down if you encounter a delay.
Yeah, We know.

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Old 05-04-2026 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by LinaPeru
it’s always safer to takeoff with both engines running.

The airplane starts screaming at you when you advance the thrust levers for takeoff and you only have 1 engine and the apu running.

ask me how I know……
Cause you practice it every 6 months?
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Old 05-04-2026 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by CGLimits
Cause you practice it every 6 months?
nah. Every now and then I forget a checklist. Or three. Who’s counting?

low fares done right
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Old 05-04-2026 | 05:21 PM
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Whatever happens on ground staff delays is not our problem (directly). If there's a problem it should be properly addressed and reported. As a pilot I am responsible for what I can do on my flight (more precisely Frontier,s flight) to make a few more savings trying to make the business more attractive to investors and save the business .
​​​​​​. Whatever they are doing with the administration of the company is way above my pay scale.
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