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03-03-2016 | 09:51 AM
#4171
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DELTA, UAL, AA, even SWA on their 737s ake a look at their 3rd year CA rates and take a look At F9/NKS. Do the math, don't forget to throw in DC plan and profit sharing
03-03-2016 | 10:00 AM
#4173
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And I already told you.
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03-03-2016 | 10:09 AM
#4174
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All from APC pay rates:
year: Spirit/UAL/%
FO
1: $38/$79/48%
2:$72/$122/59%
3: $78/$142/54%
4: $84/$146/57%
5:$90/$149/60%
CA
4: $131/$231/56%
5: $136/$233/58%
6: $142/$235/60%
7: $147/$237/62%
8: $151/$238/63%
Top out year 15 for spirit, year 12 for UAL
FO: $109/$168/65%
CA: $185/$246/75%
*This doesn't include the upcoming pay raises for United
This also doesn't reflect the fact that there are captains at spirit and F9 that have only been on property for 2-3 years. So pay rates come close to evening out. It also doesn't reflect that upgrade times at the big 3 are coming down and already have significantly at AA and DAL with UAL not far behind given current projections.
03-03-2016 | 10:14 AM
#4175
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From: Airbus FO
Those rates also don't show United's 16% DC plan and the 13% bonus they received this year. Don't forget the per diem difference as well. When you factor those in Spirit pays less then half of what United does. Just saying. I am all for QOL but when your peers are toasting you that badly in pay it makes it difficult to claim you have better QOL. Money is a part of QOL, not just days off.
03-03-2016 | 10:19 AM
#4176
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Those rates also don't show United's 16% DC plan and the 13% bonus they received this year. Don't forget the per diem difference as well. When you factor those in Spirit pays less then half of what United does. Just saying. I am all for QOL but when your peers are toasting you that badly in pay it makes it difficult to claim you have better QOL. Money is a part of QOL, not just days off.
03-03-2016 | 10:21 AM
#4177
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Purely informal, to each their own, QOL is more important than money for some, money is for others.
All from APC pay rates:
year: Spirit/UAL/%
FO
1: $38/$79/48%
2:$72/$122/59%
3: $78/$142/54%
4: $84/$146/57%
5:$90/$149/60%
CA
4: $131/$231/56%
5: $136/$233/58%
6: $142/$235/60%
7: $147/$237/62%
8: $151/$238/63%
Top out year 15 for spirit, year 12 for UAL
FO: $109/$168/65%
CA: $185/$246/75%
*This doesn't include the upcoming pay raises for United
This also doesn't reflect the fact that there are captains at spirit and F9 that have only been on property for 2-3 years. So pay rates come close to evening out. It also doesn't reflect that upgrade times at the big 3 are coming down and already have significantly at AA and DAL with UAL not far behind given current projections.
All from APC pay rates:
year: Spirit/UAL/%
FO
1: $38/$79/48%
2:$72/$122/59%
3: $78/$142/54%
4: $84/$146/57%
5:$90/$149/60%
CA
4: $131/$231/56%
5: $136/$233/58%
6: $142/$235/60%
7: $147/$237/62%
8: $151/$238/63%
Top out year 15 for spirit, year 12 for UAL
FO: $109/$168/65%
CA: $185/$246/75%
*This doesn't include the upcoming pay raises for United
This also doesn't reflect the fact that there are captains at spirit and F9 that have only been on property for 2-3 years. So pay rates come close to evening out. It also doesn't reflect that upgrade times at the big 3 are coming down and already have significantly at AA and DAL with UAL not far behind given current projections.
03-03-2016 | 11:06 AM
#4178
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Looking at the lines for March, it would appear that there is no advantage to becoming relatively senior at Frontier.
The one thing we've always had here was good schedules. Those days are apparently over. They just keep getting worse and worse.
The one thing we've always had here was good schedules. Those days are apparently over. They just keep getting worse and worse.
03-03-2016 | 11:18 AM
#4179
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Those rates also don't show United's 16% DC plan and the 13% bonus they received this year. Don't forget the per diem difference as well. When you factor those in Spirit pays less then half of what United does. Just saying. I am all for QOL but when your peers are toasting you that badly in pay it makes it difficult to claim you have better QOL. Money is a part of QOL, not just days off.
03-03-2016 | 11:20 AM
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