Frontier Hiring.
12-18-2016 | 07:03 PM
#6382
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From: CRJ-200 CA
My 8.5 day got canceled while I was on a layover in my own bed... I was at peace but I do feel truly awful for people who paid hard earned money to get treated like this... the email from the mec was humorous to say the least... nothing will happen because there's no accountability... most companies you can walk to the ceos office and say hi... here you need a key card because they're sequestered in their own wing... all I can say is the pictures that Meehan and biffle have of Franke must involve him doing truly unspeakable things
12-18-2016 | 07:05 PM
#6383
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: May 2013
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From: CRJ-200 CA
It was / is horrendous. They would keep delaying flights, then finally cancelling , I was at a Denver gate when they announced a cancellation, near riot. The customer service line was down to the main area by the food court. The police were called to monitor things as they were getting out of hand. Over 7 airplanes with over 3 hour tarmac delay because no gates / because maybe 10 rampers were left - isn't that $27.5 K per passenger fine ? It was Mega cold though and I froze my cajones on a 5 minute preflight. I Felt bery bad for the Rampers. When they did cancel , the pax waited 3-4 hours and never got their luggage. They ordered all flights to leave without bags to open up the gates. My flight left 10 hours late with no bags. No one told the pax though as we walked past them in baggage claim to the hotel van. -
If I were running the show and saw the temps and weather coming - I would have ordered double time for every ramper that showed up , head down there with my pockets filled with $100 s and hand them out -feed everyone etc. it would work and the cost would be minimal compared to the fines and lost customers.
If I were running the show and saw the temps and weather coming - I would have ordered double time for every ramper that showed up , head down there with my pockets filled with $100 s and hand them out -feed everyone etc. it would work and the cost would be minimal compared to the fines and lost customers.
12-18-2016 | 08:11 PM
#6384
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Joined: Aug 2016
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From: Bus CA
This operation has been an on and off again total cluster-****. How does our VP of Operations still have his job?! Can anyone explain to me what good it does to operate under this new model of business if it falls flat on its face every 2-3 months? It obviously needs some major tweaking, first step is showing Bill Meehan the door!
Unfortunately since we're a private company it would be worthless to have a "vote of no confidence," like SWAPA executed (shortly before getting a TA that took a better part of the decade to negotiate). What can ALPA do to voice our frustration with our operations?
Unfortunately since we're a private company it would be worthless to have a "vote of no confidence," like SWAPA executed (shortly before getting a TA that took a better part of the decade to negotiate). What can ALPA do to voice our frustration with our operations?
From the MEC newsletter:
"This weekend, Frontier Airlines once again fell on its face while attempting to operate a reliable airline."
"While operational errors and mistakes befall every carrier, most management teams implement practices and procedures to prevent reoccurrences. Stated another way, successful companies learn from their mistakes. At Frontier, for more than 3 years now, we have seen a pattern develop in which the Company continues to make the same mistakes, and that has become the new “norm.”
I guess this means I'm renouncing myself from the Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster, praying straight to APC is way more effective!
Joking aside, a sincere thank you to our ALPA MEC.
12-18-2016 | 08:35 PM
#6385
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Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 3,747
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From: 1900D CA
It was / is horrendous. They would keep delaying flights, then finally cancelling , I was at a Denver gate when they announced a cancellation, near riot. The customer service line was down to the main area by the food court. The police were called to monitor things as they were getting out of hand. Over 7 airplanes with over 3 hour tarmac delay because no gates / because maybe 10 rampers were left - isn't that $27.5 K per passenger fine ? It was Mega cold though and I froze my cajones on a 5 minute preflight. I Felt bery bad for the Rampers. When they did cancel , the pax waited 3-4 hours and never got their luggage. They ordered all flights to leave without bags to open up the gates. My flight left 10 hours late with no bags. No one told the pax though as we walked past them in baggage claim to the hotel van. -
If I were running the show and saw the temps and weather coming - I would have ordered double time for every ramper that showed up , head down there with my pockets filled with $100 s and hand them out -feed everyone etc. it would work and the cost would be minimal compared to the fines and lost customers.
If I were running the show and saw the temps and weather coming - I would have ordered double time for every ramper that showed up , head down there with my pockets filled with $100 s and hand them out -feed everyone etc. it would work and the cost would be minimal compared to the fines and lost customers.
The idea of paying the ramp staff double time during harsh conditions is a great idea, however they aren't our employees and we don't write their pay checks. Simplicity does. We can't just impose our policies on them. Now, Barry could go out there and hand out cash of course, and clearly he should have, but when you contract out employees, they aren't your employees anymore.
I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the morning meeting at the GO tomorrow.
12-18-2016 | 08:57 PM
#6387
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Joined: May 2013
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From: CRJ-200 CA
There is absolutely nothing difficult about the interview here... NOTHING... all an interview does is validate who you are... is the person on paper who we actually meet... if it is, you get hired... if you tell them you've never failed a check ride then show up and tell em you "forgot" you did, they'll tell you to pound sand, and rightfully so... if you sit in the break room and say you have an interview at delta in two weeks, that's a pretty stupid thing to say... just prepare... even a little... learn something about the company, be courteous, be professional and be honest and it's a non event... it basically boils down to 1) will they be trainable, 2) will they be in the chief pilots office and 3) will I want to murder this person after a 4 day
12-18-2016 | 09:48 PM
#6388
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Joined: Dec 2016
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Thank you sir. Seems as if common sense these days really isn't too common. I am strongly considering F9. However, it would be a significant pay cut. My TT is around 8500 and I come with 5 types. No failed check rides (at least for now). I think my down fall is not having any 121 time.
12-18-2016 | 10:20 PM
#6389
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Joined: May 2013
Posts: 436
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From: CRJ-200 CA
Thank you sir. Seems as if common sense these days really isn't too common. I am strongly considering F9. However, it would be a significant pay cut. My TT is around 8500 and I come with 5 types. No failed check rides (at least for now). I think my down fall is not having any 121 time.
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