dmspilot

What would I be surprised by?

GojetFires

When they bring the large bonus back, which they will soon have to do, the deal will sound better, 4th year pay plus a 56k bonus say. Little do they know the 4th year is where they stay for the next 4 years and good luck ever getting the bonus actually paid.

MrIncredible

We have CommutAir guys in the new hire classes

Hedley

What’s a bigger risk over the next 5-10 years, working for a regional that only operates single class 50 seaters or flying the 550 for GoJet? Not being sarcastic..... serious question.

GojetFires

Gojet is by far the bigger risk. They have unpaid bills, they don't honor their contracts, they have the lousy reputation they earned, they and not going to be able to get pilots by the end of june without a huge bonus and their pilots are without a contract.

Hedley

Mesa has long been considered a dumpster fire, but they get pilots and they will be flying 175’s for United for years to come. Before XJet shut down, many of them would say the same thing about CommutAir, and now many of them are applying to work there. Considering that the single class 50 seaters are nearing the end of the road, wouldn’t going to a company like Air Wisconsin or CommutAir and hoping that they magic up some 175’s be an equal or even greater risk than going to a company, good or bad, flying aircraft that the parent company intends to keep around?

StlLifer

If it is a good company, the type of plane does not matter. Hulas owns GoJet, I don't think his methods will survive a transaction.

Hedley

ExpressJet was a good company and they’re gone. I’m not suggesting that GoJet is a good company to work for or that they will survive. I’m just saying that since scope is maxed out and all of the available 70/76 seat aircraft are already flying with other companies, working for Air Wisconsin or CommutAir is potentially an equal risk. Most of the 175’s are owned by the three regionals currently flying them and United doesn’t actually own enough of them to spread them around to those companies that don’t. As the 50 seaters are eventually phased out, there won’t be enough UAX aircraft to keep all of the current companies flying for United.

captive apple

United owns a sizable portion of the 175s under express. Enough for commutair if it goes that way.

Hedley

That still doesn’t change the risk of working there vs somewhere already flying the 175’s. Depending on how long they are contracted out to the companies currently flying them, United could decide to move the pieces around, or they could leave them where they are. United is going to do what is best for the bottom line at United, how it affects employees at any company is not important (to them). If moving assets to another company will make more money they will do so. If leaving them where they are and allowing other companies to shut down as their existing fleets are retired makes more money, they’ll do that. Hoping United transfers 175’s to your company when your current fleet is nearing the end of the road is a high risk position to be in. Since there are no more 70/76 seaters available, as the single class aircraft eventually go away, the crews for those 200+ aircraft are definitely at significant risk.