Again completely childish IMO

I know we have furloughed guys over there right now as well. I understand the fact that the original go jet fiasco happened years ago. But why does the pilot group still act the same way it did when the company was created? Is it just apathy that nobody there wants to actually change the place for the better? Or is it because people are scared to make anything happen? Am I wrong in thinking that most positions of power in that company are still held by people that created the company in the first place? Why doesn't the union accept the trans states holdings letter that allows furloughed TSA guys half longevity?

So when is GoJet going to start handing out the signing bonuses?

If the birth of GoJet is as bad as claimed, then why was there never a grievance filed?

Because they skipped right to a lawsuit. Which they lost because the companies had separate websites. (which, obviously, meant that they were separate companies)

IMO, whether we like to admit it or not, corruption is just as prevalent in this country as it is others. We're just better at hiding it. No judge in his right mind should have sided with the company on GoJet's formation. But, of course, some judge did. I can only wonder why...

Was that the same judge that threw out Comair's contract because Delta said "If the pilots were cheaper, we could give Comair more planes."

Why was there no appeal to NMB decision regarding the single carrier petition?

Oh, and for the clowns denying jumpseats based on airline affiliation with current reciprocal agreement, remember that while you may not need a ride from GoJet or USAir East/West, your fellow pilots AT YOUR OWN airline may and by being an immature kid on a 4-stripe power trip may just cause your friend/classmate at your own airline to get left behind. Karma is a b!tch.

Leave politics out of jumpseats.

You now may resume your childish bickering over who sucks and who's a scab.

That doesn't happen as Go Jet pilots commute all of the time with no more hassle than any other airline pilot. When you hear about GJ pilots being denied jumpseats, it is just BS and Internet message board dramatics.

Basically with the court ruling.... They were able to observe the freedom debacle and see the ruling on that case. This gave the company a playbook to run the creation of go jet without failing like freedom.

I have to disagree, based on my own experience. I've seen a Gojet guy get denied, and a couple others have posted seeing the same. I also had a gate agent recently go on a full-on rant about Gojet's performance (in particular, cancelations.) That day, we picked up a completely full turn that they canceled. She was saying that it was typical and she hoped DL would cancel their contract due to poor performance. I stood there wide-eyed in disbelief that she would talk like that in front of passengers. Also was glad that I wasn't a Gojet guy looking for a ride...
I have no ill will toward the pilots as I understand they have nothing to do with boardroom decisions or whether or not to cancel. But those that choose to go there should understand the proverbial snake pit that awaits.

The majors don't care about regional pizsing matches.

Ummmm....no its not. Ive denied a few GJ guys out of ORD before and I know of a lot more Captains who do the same thing. And I'm going to keep denying them over and over again.

But keep spouting off nonsense.

No, they don't. But they do have "hiring consultants" from other regionals who help make decisions - just making sure a "5 percenter" doesn't slip through the cracks. I know for a fact that TSA has these guys at CAL, DAL and JBL.

Childish! Really childish PBSG!

Right.. Don't hire him! He's a gojets pilot!

Get real, majors and HR don't care. I know gojet pilots who have been hired at Delta and Fedex. It's all based on experience, qualifications, and internal recs.

Any person on a hiring board that discriminates against a candidate based on where they worked should not be in that position, period.

What he said!

So, you've "seen a guy" get denied and seen a couple of other posts. My brother flew for GJ for just over 2 years, commuted all the time and was never denied. I also have a close friend that flew for them and commuted....never denied. Neither one of them had even heard of other GJ pilots being denied, so I don't buy it.

Ummmm....no. See above. As for you denying and supposedly knowing other Captains denying GJ pilots jumpseats, all I can say is that the lunatic fringe doesn't count.

However, your opinion is duly noted.

How much is your dignity and self respect worth? A quick upgrade? At the end of your life, can you can look at your past and remember how you were an industry pariah to get ahead?

I could go/have gone to GJ and gotten a quick street captain upgrade, but I'd rather find a new career if I can't look at myself in the mirror when I leave the hotel every morning.

But you could look at yourself in the mirror when you made $20.73/hr, $24.39/hr, and $30.09/hr for your first 3 years respectively as a Pinnacle CRJ FO? Make no mistake, many came to Pinnalce for the quick upgrade and justified the low FO wage (the lowest in the country at that time for a CRJ operator) because they would upgrade quickly at the 2 year mark.

You've got issues if you care that much about what other people think of you or if you take any job that seriously.

Its called self respect.... Seems like you'd be quick to take a job at the detriment of others...

Can't speak to wages back then, but I know the wages are very competitive with other RJ carriers now.

Sounds like you would fit in real well over at GoJets. Have you applied yet?

Or would you, if Eagle gives you the f notice and Skywest doesn't take you?

Anyone that takes a job at a regional making poverty wages has hurt the industry. We all should take a look in the mirror before we polish our belt buckle and boast about how "my regional is better than your regional".

It's not that my regional is better, it's just that yours sucks the hardest. Golfball through a garden hose kind of suck.

They'll at least be on my list.

Really?? Well how is your regional working out for you ol' wise one?? Thought so.

Anyone that has worked at TSA and has the nuts to say another regional is worse than theirs is senile at best. I bet they are lining up to go to work over there. Here we go again.

Uh, I work at TSA and I know damn well that Gojets is MUCH worse. So, yeah, not senile here. Sorry buddy.

Disagree. I would much rather be at GoJet than TSA based on the shape and outlook of the two. Hope it works out for you.

So you like the idea of a contract not worth the paper it's written on and a "union" with a long history of doing whatever management tells them to do? Sounds like you wouldn't fit in at TSA anyways. Enjoy gojets ill-gotten gains at the expense of the rest of us. (Just don't come asking for a ride home, or a job at any other airline I may ever work at.)

Gojet Pilots running around like a bunch of honey badgers. :mad:

Regional pilots scolding other regional pilots about destroying the industry is pretty entertaining, continue please....

It's ok, it makes them feel superior to others and of higher morals :D

Like, I've said, business is never personal. Most pilots don't understand that, because most pilots are just...pilots, they only have experience sitting for hours and telling stories- theres the occasional break in convo to get a '30 degrees right/left for weather'-then the quarterbacking continues...

I think no more badly of Gojets, than i think of Compass or Freedom. Actually i don't think of them at all. I think its highly entertaining how some pilots will figure that they are worth so much more that they deserve regional flying because they could run checklists better than a go jet pilot? make more on time departures than a go jet pilot? Flirt with more fa's than a go jet pilot? What entitles people to a job with a carrier?

Those same pilots are the ones who are hated by management because they never answer their phones, they write up cupholders and other items out of base just to screw with their company--you know the cool, bad-@zz types!

Then theres the "you won't get hired anywhere in the future argument".
Thats like saying if you sleep with fat girls for a period of time, bagging a skinny girl is going to be damn near impossible. As if there isn't a whole world full of airlines, and skinny girls.:rolleyes:

But what if you have to list all the fat girls on a resume before you can start with the skinny one?

Your lack of time in this industry is very clear. This thinking is going to bite you, trust me on that.

You know nothing about my "time in this industry". Thanks for the valuable response!

Then that girl would probably not give you any play no way. Most girls don't ask for resumes anyway.

Most companies nowadays use third parties to screen applicants.What are the chances of a TSA pilot(who experienced what some of them make out to be THE Holocaust of the airline industry) making a hiring decision at a major airline?What are the chances of them becoming an HR generalist at Delta,United, US Air,Jetblue,SWA,Fed Ex,UPS, or anywhere?

Sure there might be the chance that one of them sits in on an interview, they may even get to make a few comments to the other HR people/chief pilot present but i guarantee that will go down as a 'Dwight Schrute' moment in history. "Listen to me Michael!"