Again it shows your lack of exposure. A vast majority of airlines have hiring done by pilots. All majors historically have had pilots on the hiring board, many times being the vast majority. Most historically also have a captains/pilots review process for those HR wants to hire, in which they must pass.

For example EAGLE was entirely pilots doing the hiring. This is AMR and modeled after AA.

I know your excited to go fly for an airline, but wait till you come see the meat and potatoes of this industry, and you will see that you should have just listened to what people were saying.

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You got me! Got me good. But again sir, you know nothing about my "exposure".

And again the chances of a disgruntled TSA pilot who makes it to the "Majors", who is selected to serve on a "hiring board", who is still angry that he didn't get a holocaust ring is probably very slim, also very slim is the chance that one of his 'buddies' (because pilots don't have friends they have buddies-(i learned that from an indecent amount of exposure)) who will carry the TSA "gojet lowered the industry bar for all of us" slogan/speech while serving on a "hiring board". But hey YANEVERKNOW!:confused:

I get it because as Wingtips says i have NO EXPERIENCE in this industry! So i guess that makes him the 'IDIOT" and me the one that shouldn't be arguing with him! Thanks for seeing it my way-the logical way.

I work at Eagle and think the GOJETS guy are scum. If they were not scum they would merge the list with TSA. Oh wait then they would not be getting to cut all the corners on earth.

If I were on a hiring board, I would never hire a GOJET guy. Everyone of them I meet are also weird as hell.

I am not alone in this mentality.

Weird as hell? Thats most pilots.
I never met one myself but when i got to ORD which isn't often, sometimes i like to sit at the mcdonalds fork in the terminal and see if i can spot one......but it usually ends up being just a MESA employee...

Again, i think changes will be coming to eagle and AA with regards to hiring practices, among other things.

Ya neither will hire for along time.

Your clearly someone from the outside looking in. I am done feeding your trolling.

Disagree. Doesn't need to be a 'disgruntled' TSA pilot, could be the spouse/relative/friend/etc of a TSA pilot that you're speaking to. Word gets around, be it good/bad/true/false. Fair or not, hiring boards are humans, too. Oh, and every airline interview I've attended has included both individuals from the HR department, as well as flight ops. As for the non-flying, management jobs, it's the same way; HR and typically people from the department you'll be working with. Not really sure where you got that whole "3rd party" idea from.

On that previous note, it's shocking how small this industry is. I just try and keep my mouth shut and try not to step on anyone.

I have no personal side in this fight, but if people need this much positive reinforcement to go fly at G7, then they really need to go fly somewhere else. Problem solved. Informed decisions about employment are not made from internet message boards.

I'm not one to make stereo types but I will say, the one GoJet pilot(former) I know is a very strange duck. A nice guy, down to earth dude and easy to get along but man, what a weirdo.

It appears this a trend among most GoJet pilots that probably stems from the GoJet hiring process.

From what I've heard, a GoJet interview consists mainly of whether they like you or not, nothing else. You wont see much of a cognitive, sim or technical evaluation...

A GoJet interview compared to a Skywest interview is similar to a private pilot stage check compared to a CFI checkride.

Good analogy.

Seriously, dude? Please tell me you're not making a mockery of the dead to improve your perception of GoJet. Because if you are, I'm in before the ban. Real classy :mad:

"""""Ive seen more planes from colgan go down than gojets.""""

I can't believe you typed this! Are you freaking kidding me? You are a dick.

Really?!?! You are going to scold someone for their lack of time in the industry! When did you get hired by Eagle, like a year ago or less? You never cease to amaze me with the crap that comes out of your mouth.

For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism.

:confused:

Atleast other places care about there people.

Bad form, Embraego. Let's quit with that kind of talk right now. Lock it up.

I apologize , the point i was trying to make obviously was not made.

As for the original statement:
This would also mean that their training department is sub-standard as well?Maintenance? Not to mention the whole 'my regional is better than yours' attitude that comes with a statement like that. Trying to make GJ out to be some bottom of the barrel turboprop outfit that was started from pieces of a wreck in an african jungle, then bought to the USA by some shady underhanded-black magic-immigrant deal...does not make a good argument.

Interviews should be easy, training should separate the men from the boys.Somehow though GJ manages to keep a certificate.Their pilots again, cannot be that bad.

This guy obviously has no idea what he is talking about or is running low on meds.

G7 pilots decided to shaft TSA pilots. That is the fundamental underlining fact why they have their reputation.

How about you google Gojet. And the comment you made earlier in this thread, which im not going to repeat should get you ******* Banned. In fact find a new profession. ****.

Weird?
The pilots I flew with at GoJet were from Eagle (who are now at Delta), TWA (bunches of them), ATA, Midwest, Aloha, Champion, then later United folks among others. I guess we're all "weird". *shrug*
The people I fly with now couldn't care less where I came from. The majority congratulate me on escaping Uncle Hulas' zoo.

^ that was funny!

What is the junior base? Any idea how long until STL could be held? What would the average trip out of STL look like? Anyone have any info on reserve length?

Thanks

Thats mutual there gramps. Go fly your corporate jet and wack off to the idea of being in a 777.

1. The one you get out of training.
2. Why would you want it?
3. It would look like an ASA or Comair trip but it would have GoJet on the top of it.
4. All month.

Hope this helps.

You've obviously been listening to too much Nas tonight.

I'm 27 so I don't think I fall into the category of gramps. I did 4 years at an airline and the last two doing corporate and I will be the first to tell there is much more to learn. A little humility and respect can go a long way for someone like yourself. I don't define a good career as flying a 777 like you do, but maybe you are just trying to compensate for something. I will also take my working 1-2 days a week and 1-2 overnights a month over your schedule any day. But I'm sure you already know all of this since you are so smart and all knowing.

That's read-three-times funny right there!

The fact that you use the term "gramps" as a means of disrespecting someone shows your immaturity.

There are some different characters, no doubt. Some are very strange, but a majority are good people and easy to work with.

I jump sat on another regional carrier once and the captain put on a pair of white gloves before push back. The airline in question is irrelevant, but my point is - there are weirdos at all of them.

You're right with that interview comparison. When I interviewed it was nothing more than a conversation and a finger flown approach. I think I described a system from an aircraft I had experience in, but that was it.

I've been told Skywests interview is much more detailed. They also have a better training program and pass rate as well.

I jump in with Red Forman here, do you want to compare:

W-2s?
Bonuses?
Vacation Days given?
Days worked?
Retirement program?
Points earned at Marriott? Hilton? Hyatt?

Which one or combination?

GF

GoJet is the scum. The chief pilot DC wants to get people in the door to meet the quotas set by Delta. They have to have 40 on reserve to get more flying in each base. They dont care how they get them. And they over hire per class and then weed out the extras. I know two friends who were fired from G7 without reason...and they had to sign a paper saying this was ok with them.

Thats been common practice all along. I need more than 2 hands to count the people who I know of that that has happened to. It was in inevitable that every week someone would come back to the crashpad that had just been fired. And cue the gojetters either defending this practice or denying this practice in 3..2..1...

I have a friend that is a former Captain at GoJet. He was asked to resign for BS reasons. GoJet probably has a high rate among regionals of fiing pilots for stupid reasons.

Keeps costs down...

Note: BS reasons include "attempting to be involved with the "union" and "requiring the company to abide by the contract"

Ever been to the other side of the world?

Exactly. This isn't an uncommon thing to do.

I put on my bomber jacket with a red scarf and leather cap complete with goggles

Heard gojet mentioned in the cockpit of a major last night for the first time. Wasn't a very long convo...went like this FO "gojet took all the flying" CA "who is gojet?" FO "trans states made them to circumvent their pilot group" CA "oh". That was it.

Cool story.