GoJet vs RAH
06-16-2012 | 12:26 PM
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Because I like to participate in professional pilot message boards and I will contribute, opine, agree or call BS where I see fit. I wasn't aware that there were message board fences between different parts of the profession.
My brother and a close friend flew for Go Jet and have never had an issue with being shunned, never felt the need to turn around their ID's(
) and never had trouble jumpseating....nor have they heard such from other GJ pilots.
Often times, someone sincerely wants information on GJ without the BS or drama. Inevitably, these threads deteriorate into an immature bash session and juvenile IBTL posts.
People should be able to post questions without the thread drifting and without harassment.
My brother and a close friend flew for Go Jet and have never had an issue with being shunned, never felt the need to turn around their ID's(
) and never had trouble jumpseating....nor have they heard such from other GJ pilots. Often times, someone sincerely wants information on GJ without the BS or drama. Inevitably, these threads deteriorate into an immature bash session and juvenile IBTL posts.
People should be able to post questions without the thread drifting and without harassment.
06-16-2012 | 12:39 PM
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Because I like to participate in professional pilot message boards and I will contribute, opine, agree or call BS where I see fit. I wasn't aware that there were message board fences between different parts of the profession.
My brother and a close friend flew for Go Jet and have never had an issue with being shunned, never felt the need to turn around their ID's() and never had trouble jumpseating....nor have they heard such from other GJ pilots.
Often times, someone sincerely wants information on GJ without the BS or drama. Inevitably, these threads deteriorate into an immature bash session and juvenile IBTL posts.
People should be able to post questions without the thread drifting and without harassment.
My brother and a close friend flew for Go Jet and have never had an issue with being shunned, never felt the need to turn around their ID's(
) and never had trouble jumpseating....nor have they heard such from other GJ pilots. Often times, someone sincerely wants information on GJ without the BS or drama. Inevitably, these threads deteriorate into an immature bash session and juvenile IBTL posts.
People should be able to post questions without the thread drifting and without harassment.
VERY well said. I is nice to see a true professional make a comment like this rather than the *****ing children that are usually on here.
06-16-2012 | 12:53 PM
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From: ERJ145 Captain
I was wondering everyone's thoughts. It looks like I have offers from RAH and gojet. I know each have there problems but I am at Colgan so can't really stay there. I really don't want to get into the gojet history but current position. Here is what I know
RAH: it appears like I will be on 145 or q400. Dont really care except for 145 commute would suck. I know they are in contract talks for awhile, heard reserve sucks.
Gojet: heard about jumpseating issues but commute will be on gojet so no big deal. Assumed growth with new delta 50 seat downsize. Young pilot group with quicker upgrade.
I would like opinions from actual employees from each and not all this gojet history junk. I know that comes into play but I know about it. Thanks everyone for your thoughts
RAH: it appears like I will be on 145 or q400. Dont really care except for 145 commute would suck. I know they are in contract talks for awhile, heard reserve sucks.
Gojet: heard about jumpseating issues but commute will be on gojet so no big deal. Assumed growth with new delta 50 seat downsize. Young pilot group with quicker upgrade.
I would like opinions from actual employees from each and not all this gojet history junk. I know that comes into play but I know about it. Thanks everyone for your thoughts
Funny story, had a g7 guy ask for the Jumpseat a while back, I asked for his ID he said it was in his bag, I said "ok who do you work for?" He said Transtates Holdings, I said "which aircraft do you fly?" He then took the slip out of my hands and went right up the jetway. The gate agent said that this was the second flight with seats he couldn't get on. Can't imagine why!
06-16-2012 | 12:57 PM
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An issue that doesn't get discussed often, but ought to be considered is the quality of the training. I don't know much about GoJets, but I do know several people at RAH. None have spoken glowingly about the training at RAH. At various times, they've had relatively high washout rates and they don't use their own instructors. Flight Safety instructors teach in the sims rather than actual RAH people. I'm not trying to run down RAH, but I know the quality of training has been an issue in the past.
06-16-2012 | 01:02 PM
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An issue that doesn't get discussed often, but ought to be considered is the quality of the training. I don't know much about GoJets, but I do know several people at RAH. None have spoken glowingly about the training at RAH. At various times, they've had relatively high washout rates and they don't use their own instructors. Flight Safety instructors teach in the sims rather than actual RAH people. I'm not trying to run down RAH, but I know the quality of training has been an issue in the past.
06-16-2012 | 01:03 PM
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I was wondering everyone's thoughts. It looks like I have offers from RAH and gojet. I know each have there problems but I am at Colgan so can't really stay there. I really don't want to get into the gojet history but current position. Here is what I know
RAH: it appears like I will be on 145 or q400. Dont really care except for 145 commute would suck. I know they are in contract talks for awhile, heard reserve sucks.
Gojet: heard about jumpseating issues but commute will be on gojet so no big deal. Assumed growth with new delta 50 seat downsize. Young pilot group with quicker upgrade.
I would like opinions from actual employees from each and not all this gojet history junk. I know that comes into play but I know about it. Thanks everyone for your thoughts
RAH: it appears like I will be on 145 or q400. Dont really care except for 145 commute would suck. I know they are in contract talks for awhile, heard reserve sucks.
Gojet: heard about jumpseating issues but commute will be on gojet so no big deal. Assumed growth with new delta 50 seat downsize. Young pilot group with quicker upgrade.
I would like opinions from actual employees from each and not all this gojet history junk. I know that comes into play but I know about it. Thanks everyone for your thoughts
Funny story, had a g7 guy ask for the Jumpseat a while back, I asked for his ID he said it was in his bag, I said "ok who do you work for?" He said Transtates Holdings, I said "which aircraft do you fly?" He then took the slip out of my hands and went right up the jetway. The gate agent said that this was the second flight with seats he couldn't get on. Can't imagine why!
I bet you hand fly every leg from take off until landing too, right. *eyeroll*
Good thing I never tried to Jumpseat on your plane eh "Captain"?
I worked at G7 (and commuted) for over 4 years. I never had any issues and I rode "express" carriers including "Alter-Eagle" Trans Statessssss not mainline. BTW training at G7 is pretty much all self study.
06-16-2012 | 02:01 PM
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Go to RAH, at least you'll be able to sleep better at night, and you won't have to worry about hitching a ride home. I've personally turned away many gojets pilots, so it does happen, and I know I'm not the only one.
Funny story, had a g7 guy ask for the Jumpseat a while back, I asked for his ID he said it was in his bag, I said "ok who do you work for?" He said Transtates Holdings, I said "which aircraft do you fly?" He then took the slip out of my hands and went right up the jetway. The gate agent said that this was the second flight with seats he couldn't get on. Can't imagine why!
Funny story, had a g7 guy ask for the Jumpseat a while back, I asked for his ID he said it was in his bag, I said "ok who do you work for?" He said Transtates Holdings, I said "which aircraft do you fly?" He then took the slip out of my hands and went right up the jetway. The gate agent said that this was the second flight with seats he couldn't get on. Can't imagine why!
I'm sorry but I think you are wrong to do that. I can understand if it is the first group of pilots that started gojet but it is a normal regional just like everyone else these days. All my commutes will be on united express so I don't see a real problem
Would it change anyone's preference if I was offered a Shuttle E170 class instead. They said it was possible but they would let me know this week. That commute would be easier and about same a gojet. In my opinion and what I can see, gojet just looks like a brighter future than rah. I see this because of rah deal with frontier, contracts, and possible parking of 140/145s.
06-16-2012 | 02:04 PM
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Just something to consider as one weighs job offers.
06-16-2012 | 02:06 PM
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Why dont people SCAB during strikes?? Loyalty to the pilots? Commitment to the cause? Sure, I bet this is the case for many pilots. However, the fear of being harassed and ridiculed for the rest of their career is what gets that last group in line. So many more pilots would SCAB if people were as understanding as to say "Its ok, my brother and friend scabbed and they are ok."
I am not saying that scabbing is anywhere on par with GoJets, but lets be so naive to think that harassment doesn't have a distinct place in this job.
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