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CBreezy 01-30-2016 04:35 AM


Originally Posted by bernouli (Post 2058978)
That'd be against a federal statute.

McCaskill-bond would have to look at the size of both pilot groups, earning potential, career expectations, aircraft size, relative seniority, Etc, etc, etc. to think a staple could ever happen, especially with GoJet having a bigger pilot geoup, is idiotic to put it politely.

I'm not saying it would happen. Just telling people the mood of the old group. Compass and TSA would be an easier move.

minimwage4 01-30-2016 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 2058745)
Yes. Most TSA pilots that were around for the creation of GoJet, where many junior pilots jumped seniority to upgrade and then wanted seniority list integration with TSA, would be happy with putting them at the bottom of the seniority lists. Not saying it would happen but the bitterness is still strong here.

No it's not, maybe a few idiot lifers. Most pilots here probably weren't even flying or around when gojet happened. The old gojet guys from 05 are long gone or are lifers in Stl. My view of gojet guys is neutral, if the union wants a merge I'd support it, we need pilots.

CBreezy 01-30-2016 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by minimwage4 (Post 2059119)
No it's not, maybe a few idiot lifers. Most pilots here probably weren't even flying or around when gojet happened. The old gojet guys from 05 are long gone or are lifers in Stl. My view of gojet guys is neutral, if the union wants a merge I'd support it, we need pilots.

I spent most of my FO-hood in the Lou. I'd say the top 2/3 of the seniority list was here for it.

FlyingKat 01-30-2016 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by minimwage4 (Post 2059119)
No it's not, maybe a few idiot lifers. Most pilots here probably weren't even flying or around when gojet happened. The old gojet guys from 05 are long gone or are lifers in Stl. My view of gojet guys is neutral, if the union wants a merge I'd support it, we need pilots.

Probably correct but I bet as people start to think about how they might lose seniority in a merger there will be more support for a staple than you might think.

FlyingKat 01-30-2016 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by bernouli (Post 2058978)
That'd be against a federal statute.

McCaskill-bond would have to look at the size of both pilot groups, earning potential, career expectations, aircraft size, relative seniority, Etc, etc, etc. to think a staple could ever happen, especially with GoJet having a bigger pilot geoup, is idiotic to put it politely.

Wrong again Frances. Now the TSA group is larger, and will be around 900 ish by the time we get the last of the UAL aircraft this summer (around 70 total aircraft on property).

Plus if Blowjet starts to lose airplanes due to staffing the likely scenario I've heard is a gradual wind down of the certificate, and giving Blowjet pilots the opportunity to go to other certificates, so McCaskill Bond won't apply....basically a reverse of the TSA scenario...karma is a b@tch, isn't it :D

bernouli 01-30-2016 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by FlyingKat (Post 2059273)
Wrong again Frances. Now the TSA group is larger, and will be around 900 ish by the time we get the last of the UAL aircraft this summer (around 70 total aircraft on property).

Plus if Blowjet starts to lose airplanes due to staffing the likely scenario I've heard is a gradual wind down of the certificate, and giving Blowjet pilots the opportunity to go to other certificates, so McCaskill Bond won't apply....basically a reverse of the TSA scenario...karma is a b@tch, isn't it :D

That's different than a merger. With a merger it has to be fair and equitable. An arbitrator doesn't care about your wittle feewings getting hurt.

Karma? I made over $19k in January. I'm not sure what you mean.

FlyingKat 01-30-2016 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by bernouli (Post 2059318)
That's different than a merger. With a merger it has to be fair and equitable. An arbitrator doesn't care about your wittle feewings getting hurt.

Karma? I made over $19k in January. I'm not sure what you mean.

LOL....wrong again so you have to start throwing your checkbook around the table. I hope you are making good money at mainline. Still doesn't mean you weren't an idiot for giving your services away at Blowjet. And unfortunately it appears there aren't enough fools like you running around to fill Gojet classes these days...

bernouli 01-30-2016 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingKat (Post 2059330)
LOL....wrong again so you have to start throwing your checkbook around the table. I hope you are making good money at mainline. Still doesn't mean you weren't an idiot for giving your services away at Blowjet. And unfortunately it appears there aren't enough fools like you running around to fill Gojet classes these days...

What am I wrong about? Seniority list integrations during a merger? I'm going through one.

BTW - If you count per diem and my 401K DC from the company, I'm actually coming in at over $21K for the month.

And I'm an idiot?

My time at GJ got me here.

You're so butthurt it's hysterical. Again, I really hope you like the 145.

FlyingKat 01-30-2016 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by bernouli (Post 2059341)
What am I wrong about? Seniority list integrations during a merger? I'm going through one.

BTW - If you count per diem and my 401K DC from the company, I'm actually coming in at over $21K for the month.

And I'm an idiot?

My time at GJ got me here.

You're so butthurt it's hysterical. Again, I really hope you like the 145.

Cool. So when I get to mainline I'll make 21K, plus I'll have a nice fat bank account already when I get there because I wasn't stupid to enough to work for peanuts like you. The only one who's butthurt here is you, because to hide your stupidity you have to be all butthurt and defend the indefensible....working at Gojet and giving your services away for NOTHING...

See Gojet idiots like you don't get it. I could care less what I fly, so your little digs about the 145 don't mean squat. All I care about is the paycheck, which is very nice these days.

bernouli 01-30-2016 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingKat (Post 2059353)
Cool. So when I get to mainline I'll make 21K, plus I'll have a nice fat bank account already when I get there because I wasn't stupid to enough to work for peanuts like you. The only one who's butthurt here is you, because to hide your stupidity you have to be all butthurt and defend the indefensible....working at Gojet and giving your services away for NOTHING...

See Gojet idiots like you don't get it. I could care less what I fly, so your little digs about the 145 don't mean squat. All I care about is the paycheck, which is very nice these days.

But not nearly as big as mine. :p.

and it's not a dig at the type of airplane. you haven't figured that out yet? The internet isn't as anonymous as you think...


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