Changing the Beard Rule
09-12-2021, 08:19 PM
#261
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I would love to see US 121 carriers allow facial hair! I left a regional around 4 years ago for my current flying job that allows facial hair. That was the last day I have shaved, other than trimming my neck and cheeks. Everybody says I look way better with a beard (it's nicely trimmed) and I've been told multiple times it makes me look more mature. My skin is sensitive and I dread the day I have to start shaving daily again!
09-17-2021, 05:33 AM
#262
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With the exception of classified operations and poet-pilots, sensitive pilot seems an oxymoron, not that your sensitive snowflake pilot friends are morons. Or oxy's. Or moronic poets who do classified things, because if so, we couldn't really talk about it.
Count #2: Classified, no clue. Covert, what's happy hour without a secret or 20? Beard optional.
https://youtu.be/cXQS4S3vgGA
02-16-2022, 07:34 PM
#263
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02-16-2022, 07:54 PM
#264
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a study done by Air Canada for their pilots
Originally Posted by Halon1211
i don’t see how airlines around the world allow that because it is labeled on the oxygen mask that facial hair won’t allow a clean seal. Now I’m assuming that the manufacturer did a study on that, for them to put that label on the O2 mask.
Facial hair on pilots: Study busts myth -- ScienceDaily
02-16-2022, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by roberto86
A study done by Air Canada, before they allowed their pilots to have groomed facial hair:
Facial hair on pilots: Study busts myth -- ScienceDaily
Facial hair on pilots: Study busts myth -- ScienceDaily
Doesn't address cultural or brand image issues... still have to deal with those.
02-16-2022, 11:07 PM
#266
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Originally Posted by 208pilot
I would love to see US 121 carriers allow facial hair! I left a regional around 4 years ago for my current flying job that allows facial hair. That was the last day I have shaved, other than trimming my neck and cheeks. Everybody says I look way better with a beard (it's nicely trimmed) and I've been told multiple times it makes me look more mature. My skin is sensitive and I dread the day I have to start shaving daily again!
Every time I hear someone say, "at the regionals..." it reminds me of kids who describe back in the day, when they were in kindergarten.
There does come a point when one needn't make an effort to look more mature; one simply is more mature, and doesn't need to advertise that.
If we have pilots in cockpits who need a beard to look mature enough to fly the airplane, perhaps we simply need more mature pilots.
02-17-2022, 04:38 AM
#267
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Originally Posted by 208pilot
I would love to see US 121 carriers allow facial hair! I left a regional around 4 years ago for my current flying job that allows facial hair. That was the last day I have shaved, other than trimming my neck and cheeks. Everybody says I look way better with a beard (it's nicely trimmed) and I've been told multiple times it makes me look more mature. My skin is sensitive and I dread the day I have to start shaving daily again!
02-17-2022, 10:58 AM
#269
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
So how much negotiating capital does anyone want to give up in the CBA to get beards approved? Seriously?
02-17-2022, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
If it takes a beard to make you look more mature, you're quite possibly one of those who adds "and a half" when stating your age.
Every time I hear someone say, "at the regionals..." it reminds me of kids who describe back in the day, when they were in kindergarten.
There does come a point when one needn't make an effort to look more mature; one simply is more mature, and doesn't need to advertise that.
If we have pilots in cockpits who need a beard to look mature enough to fly the airplane, perhaps we simply need more mature pilots.
Every time I hear someone say, "at the regionals..." it reminds me of kids who describe back in the day, when they were in kindergarten.
There does come a point when one needn't make an effort to look more mature; one simply is more mature, and doesn't need to advertise that.
If we have pilots in cockpits who need a beard to look mature enough to fly the airplane, perhaps we simply need more mature pilots.
No matter how “mature” I acted, it still looked like I was there on a “take your son to work” day.
I couldn’t have grown a beard then but made up for that later.
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