UFO sightings
03-22-2021, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by trip
ATPCLIFF, any good read recommendations? I've read Forbidden Archaeology and Chariots of the Gods. I've not seen anything personally after 20K hours that I can say was a "UFO" but like to keep an open mind. Somebody very close to me had an encounter back in the nineties, it's so fascinating to hear him tell that story and recall the details!
03-22-2021, 05:00 PM
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trump's Director of National Intelligence (DNI) John Ratcliffe:
https://news.yahoo.com/us-military-r...154910933.html
https://news.yahoo.com/us-military-r...154910933.html
12-08-2022, 11:58 PM
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Seems there’s been an exponential increase in strange sightings over the past three weeks. This past evening 123.45 was blowing up over mid Atlantic on NATV around 0600Z. Lights would suddenly appear in the sky about 15-20 degrees high, brighten, move around, then disappear.
Possibly glint off a satellite solar panel, but that wouldn’t explain the movement. Also wouldn’t explain why these sightings all of a sudden became more prevalent globally (reports over CONUS & Pacific too) over the past few weeks.
https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comme...orth_atlantic/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ATC/comment...fo_megathread/
https://www.reddit.com/r/flying/comm...ht_in_the_sky/
https://twitter.com/canadia56668243/...bRwHSGfhdyfRtQ
Possibly glint off a satellite solar panel, but that wouldn’t explain the movement. Also wouldn’t explain why these sightings all of a sudden became more prevalent globally (reports over CONUS & Pacific too) over the past few weeks.
https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comme...orth_atlantic/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ATC/comment...fo_megathread/
https://www.reddit.com/r/flying/comm...ht_in_the_sky/
https://twitter.com/canadia56668243/...bRwHSGfhdyfRtQ
12-09-2022, 02:30 AM
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We saw these lights earlier this month flying the red eye from SFO to DTW. Definitely not starlink. Lights would appear and either stay motionless before fading out while others would move in completely different trajectories. What blew my mind were two appearing in two different locations, then both traveled in a path to almost join. After sitting near each other for a couple of seconds, one faded away and the other accelerated in a trajectory opposite its original. Location was over Wisconsin at about 0400 looking east about 15-20 degrees high. The only thing I could square in my mind was I was maybe seeing afterburner plumes over Lake Michigan? ATC said they only painted a few other airliners over the lake and no mil activity in the warning areas off Milwaukee. Also, we were watching these things for about 20 minutes and they stayed in the same part of the sky, leading us to believe they were much farther away and much higher than we originally thought. Upon landing, we ran into two other crews who saw the same phenomenon.
I’ve spent countless hours droning around looking at the stars both in the mil and now the airlines and have never seen anything remotely close to what I saw that night. I’m 110% convinced there’s something out there using a technology we’re not aware of. Not quite ready to say it’s aliens yet, however…
I’ve spent countless hours droning around looking at the stars both in the mil and now the airlines and have never seen anything remotely close to what I saw that night. I’m 110% convinced there’s something out there using a technology we’re not aware of. Not quite ready to say it’s aliens yet, however…
12-11-2022, 05:51 AM
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About a year and a half ago, about half way between Honolulu and LAX, someone came up on 123.45 and asked, "anyone know how to take evasive action for falling rocket debris?" I though that a stupid question (obvious answer is, you don't), but was also curious about what prompted it. As an idle back-and forth began by bored souls on the radio, I watched an aircraft pass over head, overtaking, moving from behind, and crossing paths right to left. I made out two white lights at the wingtip, didn't see red or green, and didn't pay a lot of attention initially, other than to note that it appeared to be 2,000 to 4,000 above us (based on the distance between the two lights), same direction, definitely faster (we were .83 M1). Once past me, on my left, it seemed to accelerate, and shortly I realized it was two objects traveling at what appeared to be the same rate, side by side. They accelerated, and the one on the right got brighter, and I saw what looked like "petals" or a series of geometric shapes, which at the time I took to be an afterburner. My thought was that it was two aircraft in formation, and one lit the can. Shortly after that, it exploded, followed by the one on the left.
That caused a lot of excitement on the radio, both on 123.45, and on 121.5. It became apparent, when the objects exploded, that the distance and altitude was misleading, and these were a lot higher and farther out. My impression then was that they'd been celestial, orbital. Reports began of CPDLC messages alerting to falling rocket debris, apparently the result of a Chinese something or other gone wrong. Shortly after that NOTAM information was passed on, and when I plotted the area, it was west of San Diego. I knew that wasn't right, as I'd seen it to the north of me, and crews going into SFO were reporting what looked like "pixie dust," which I took to mean a lot of debris making entry. Whatever broke up was in a lot of pieces, and scattered over a fairly broad area. I looked for other debris, but didn't see it.
When I was a kid, UFO's were interesting, and I'd have liked to believe in extraterrestrial craft, and visitors. Like most, over the years, I've seen traffic that I couldn't identify, which technically, by definition, makes it unidentified. Today, when someone tells me about their UFO experiences, and their belief in extraterrestrial visitors building pyramids and the Nazca lines, and so on, or more recently someone described to me their belief that the moon is a hollow metal sphere full of "aliens," I simply take them for a fool and an idiot, and dismiss them without much more thought. I lump them in the same category as the conspiracy fruitcakes.
That caused a lot of excitement on the radio, both on 123.45, and on 121.5. It became apparent, when the objects exploded, that the distance and altitude was misleading, and these were a lot higher and farther out. My impression then was that they'd been celestial, orbital. Reports began of CPDLC messages alerting to falling rocket debris, apparently the result of a Chinese something or other gone wrong. Shortly after that NOTAM information was passed on, and when I plotted the area, it was west of San Diego. I knew that wasn't right, as I'd seen it to the north of me, and crews going into SFO were reporting what looked like "pixie dust," which I took to mean a lot of debris making entry. Whatever broke up was in a lot of pieces, and scattered over a fairly broad area. I looked for other debris, but didn't see it.
When I was a kid, UFO's were interesting, and I'd have liked to believe in extraterrestrial craft, and visitors. Like most, over the years, I've seen traffic that I couldn't identify, which technically, by definition, makes it unidentified. Today, when someone tells me about their UFO experiences, and their belief in extraterrestrial visitors building pyramids and the Nazca lines, and so on, or more recently someone described to me their belief that the moon is a hollow metal sphere full of "aliens," I simply take them for a fool and an idiot, and dismiss them without much more thought. I lump them in the same category as the conspiracy fruitcakes.
12-11-2022, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
About a year and a half ago, about half way between Honolulu and LAX, someone came up on 123.45 and asked, "anyone know how to take evasive action for falling rocket debris?" I though that a stupid question (obvious answer is, you don't), but was also curious about what prompted it. As an idle back-and forth began by bored souls on the radio, I watched an aircraft pass over head, overtaking, moving from behind, and crossing paths right to left. I made out two white lights at the wingtip, didn't see red or green, and didn't pay a lot of attention initially, other than to note that it appeared to be 2,000 to 4,000 above us (based on the distance between the two lights), same direction, definitely faster (we were .83 M1). Once past me, on my left, it seemed to accelerate, and shortly I realized it was two objects traveling at what appeared to be the same rate, side by side. They accelerated, and the one on the right got brighter, and I saw what looked like "petals" or a series of geometric shapes, which at the time I took to be an afterburner. My thought was that it was two aircraft in formation, and one lit the can. Shortly after that, it exploded, followed by the one on the left.
That caused a lot of excitement on the radio, both on 123.45, and on 121.5. It became apparent, when the objects exploded, that the distance and altitude was misleading, and these were a lot higher and farther out. My impression then was that they'd been celestial, orbital. Reports began of CPDLC messages alerting to falling rocket debris, apparently the result of a Chinese something or other gone wrong. Shortly after that NOTAM information was passed on, and when I plotted the area, it was west of San Diego. I knew that wasn't right, as I'd seen it to the north of me, and crews going into SFO were reporting what looked like "pixie dust," which I took to mean a lot of debris making entry. Whatever broke up was in a lot of pieces, and scattered over a fairly broad area. I looked for other debris, but didn't see it.
When I was a kid, UFO's were interesting, and I'd have liked to believe in extraterrestrial craft, and visitors. Like most, over the years, I've seen traffic that I couldn't identify, which technically, by definition, makes it unidentified. Today, when someone tells me about their UFO experiences, and their belief in extraterrestrial visitors building pyramids and the Nazca lines, and so on, or more recently someone described to me their belief that the moon is a hollow metal sphere full of "aliens," I simply take them for a fool and an idiot, and dismiss them without much more thought. I lump them in the same category as the conspiracy fruitcakes.
That caused a lot of excitement on the radio, both on 123.45, and on 121.5. It became apparent, when the objects exploded, that the distance and altitude was misleading, and these were a lot higher and farther out. My impression then was that they'd been celestial, orbital. Reports began of CPDLC messages alerting to falling rocket debris, apparently the result of a Chinese something or other gone wrong. Shortly after that NOTAM information was passed on, and when I plotted the area, it was west of San Diego. I knew that wasn't right, as I'd seen it to the north of me, and crews going into SFO were reporting what looked like "pixie dust," which I took to mean a lot of debris making entry. Whatever broke up was in a lot of pieces, and scattered over a fairly broad area. I looked for other debris, but didn't see it.
When I was a kid, UFO's were interesting, and I'd have liked to believe in extraterrestrial craft, and visitors. Like most, over the years, I've seen traffic that I couldn't identify, which technically, by definition, makes it unidentified. Today, when someone tells me about their UFO experiences, and their belief in extraterrestrial visitors building pyramids and the Nazca lines, and so on, or more recently someone described to me their belief that the moon is a hollow metal sphere full of "aliens," I simply take them for a fool and an idiot, and dismiss them without much more thought. I lump them in the same category as the conspiracy fruitcakes.
01-07-2023, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by EA18Gpilot
We saw these lights earlier this month flying the red eye from SFO to DTW. Definitely not starlink. Lights would appear and either stay motionless before fading out while others would move in completely different trajectories. What blew my mind were two appearing in two different locations, then both traveled in a path to almost join. After sitting near each other for a couple of seconds, one faded away and the other accelerated in a trajectory opposite its original. Location was over Wisconsin at about 0400 looking east about 15-20 degrees high. The only thing I could square in my mind was I was maybe seeing afterburner plumes over Lake Michigan? ATC said they only painted a few other airliners over the lake and no mil activity in the warning areas off Milwaukee. Also, we were watching these things for about 20 minutes and they stayed in the same part of the sky, leading us to believe they were much farther away and much higher than we originally thought. Upon landing, we ran into two other crews who saw the same phenomenon.
I’ve spent countless hours droning around looking at the stars both in the mil and now the airlines and have never seen anything remotely close to what I saw that night. I’m 110% convinced there’s something out there using a technology we’re not aware of. Not quite ready to say it’s aliens yet, however…
I’ve spent countless hours droning around looking at the stars both in the mil and now the airlines and have never seen anything remotely close to what I saw that night. I’m 110% convinced there’s something out there using a technology we’re not aware of. Not quite ready to say it’s aliens yet, however…
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