Originally Posted by satpak77

I would marry a partner with brains, education, and stable family. A nut job family means nothing but problems down the road.

Originally Posted by Photon

This was actually a serious link, I was expecting something fun

Originally Posted by RomeoJulietLima

After much deliberation and much soul searching, the woman asked herself this question, why in the hell would I want to wash some man's shorts, cook for him, clean house and work, because now we need a two income household. She proceeded to do what she wanted to do, made her money, saved for her own retirement, went out with friends and enjoyed her life, very satisfied. The End.

Originally Posted by CaptainCarl

Advice given to me from one of those old pilots: "If all else fails, stay married to your first wife."

Originally Posted by RomeoJulietLima

After much deliberation and much soul searching, the woman asked herself this question, why in the hell would I want to wash some man's shorts, cook for him, clean house, have babies and work because now we need a two income household. She proceeded to do what she wanted to do, made her money, saved for her own retirement, went out with friends and enjoyed her life, very satisfied. The End.

Originally Posted by Snarge

Religion traditionally uses marriage as a way of patriarchal control. While some marriages last 60+ years and are celebrated as wonderful acts of love, legally binding oneself to another can be regressive to personal growth. Not being able to have relationships with others limits the ability for one to understand the world. Some people move from one relationship to the other, freely without marriage, others do it with the pain of divorce. And many stagnate in marriage.....

In the decades of marriage and a western society of instant gratification and personal freedom, people change and can grow in different directions: "the spouse I married 15 years ago isn't the person I once knew.....I don't identify with them anymore...."

Consider an progressive version of marriage that is really designed to provide a healthy and stable environment to children. Then once the kids are adults, the parents decide to stay together or go separate ways. If this is seen as normal in society it doesn't become a 'therapy issue' for kids whose parents divorce when they are adults. On the lower economic scale if women received state support for their own education, job training and child care, marriage would be..... almost irrelevant. Marriage never kept a man around who truly wanted to leave.......

We basically do this now but with the pain of divorce and egos. And often parents divorce before the children are adults. With women becoming more independent and a market economy that provides all needs... is this progression is possible?


Also it always takes two... both spouses are responsible for the health of the marriage. For example wife withdraws and husband feels left alone... he seeks companionship (a basic human need). She finds out and he is the guilty bastard... yet she is responsible too... but he gets the blame (switch he and she to your preference).

Originally Posted by crewdawg

Originally Posted by jungle

Interesting post, one may well ask why people believe the state or religion are thought to make a relationship any more legitimate-or for that matter why do they think the state or religion make anything legitimate.

Originally Posted by vagabond

jungle, I have resolved that I will find you a nice woman within the next 12 months. Get ready to celebrate Christmas 2013 with her!

Originally Posted by tomgoodman

I don't know why individuals believe this or that, but as long as governments grant benefits to certain relationships, governments will insist on determining who qualifies and who does not.