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Old 01-12-2019, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
They *might* have had frost from the night before. Or dew that looked like frost (if it's a NB or bigger I'm not going to get a ladder and crawl around the top of the wing doing a tactile check). Keep in mind that a cell-phone pic of something that looks like frost could generate media interest and an annoying company/FAA investigation... got to respect the optics these days.
Iím sure we wont be reading a newspaper article about your exploits in cold weather operations


Or they might have been padding their block time, that's an old trick if the company is screwing over labor. Or they might have been just trying to stick it to the man (de-ice ain't cheap... ).
Really?!?!? Please fess up... youíre new to comedy, and youíre working on your standup routines.
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Old 01-12-2019, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Packrat View Post
Even though LAS is in the desert it does get humid there, especially this time of year. Yesterday, for instance, the humidity was 45%. Unusual for a desert environment, but that's enough to form cold fuel frost.
Used to do evening departures from Mumbai, with turns from Dubai, Kuwait, Daman, Muscat (all waterside airports) During the winter, temps at out stations could range 15 and 20 degrees C, with light humid onshore breezes.

After a few hours at cruise the jet would cold soak. It was common to have ice on the upper surface of the wings. Per SOP... transfer cold wing fuel to the center tank then put warm fuel (from the bowser) into the wing. Ice turns to water, of course. However tactile checks were always accomplished I/A/W SOPs... with ladder and all and no mobile phone pictures. A back pack, which I referred to the Round-up weed killer pump, containing de-ice fluid would be used de-ice the upper surface of the wing.
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Old 01-12-2019, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by WhaleSurfing View Post
Are you telling us this because none of us know anything about the "possible reasons why" or do you just like being the center of attention?

I vote you "Tool Of The Day"
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Iím sure we wont be reading a newspaper article about your exploits in cold weather operations




Really?!?!? Please fess up... youíre new to comedy, and youíre working on your standup routines.
Well apparently *somebody* doesn't think there might be reasons to de-ice in Vegas, but I wasn't talking to either of you guys... I nominate you for TOTD for thinking up excuses to belittle someone.

All of my examples are from personal experience or observation, including a carpet dance for not de-icing a plane covered in dew (reported by a busybody pax)... I won that one since the plane was RON (no cold soak) and the temps never got anywhere near below 40 that night per the METARs. And yes I've seen people de-ice with the slimmest excuse to pad the block, and do it because they were just mad at the company.
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Old 01-12-2019, 08:39 PM
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Two tools owning the top of the page! ^
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Old 01-13-2019, 10:38 AM
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I vote for the pax who told one of our FAís that heís a Navy fighter pilot and wanted to ask us if our wing anti ice was on. He was concerned about icing as he had been flying in the same area the day before and accumulated ice. This was in climb out above 25,000 and we got called by the lead who conveyed his concerns. Thanks Maverick for your PIREP and concern.
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Old 01-13-2019, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 4runner View Post
I vote for the pax who told one of our FAís that heís a Navy fighter pilot and wanted to ask us if our wing anti ice was on. He was concerned about icing as he had been flying in the same area the day before and accumulated ice. This was in climb out above 25,000 and we got called by the lead who conveyed his concerns. Thanks Maverick for your PIREP and concern.
All you had to say was navy fighter pilot...
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer View Post
All you had to say was navy fighter pilot...
Looks like somebody has lost that loving feeling.
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:13 PM
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My Dad was a Navy fighter pilot. He didnít introduce himself as such...
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Old 01-14-2019, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 4runner View Post
I vote for the pax who told one of our FAís that heís a Navy fighter pilot and wanted to ask us if our wing anti ice was on. He was concerned about icing as he had been flying in the same area the day before and accumulated ice. This was in climb out above 25,000 and we got called by the lead who conveyed his concerns. Thanks Maverick for your PIREP and concern.
At least he brings you some entertainment and something to laugh about!! LOL
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Old 01-14-2019, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer View Post
All you had to say was navy fighter pilot...
Please......Naval Aviator.......
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