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riel39 03-12-2016 07:09 AM

Tool of the day...

http://m.imgur.com/a/CsBIJ

skater3260 03-12-2016 07:59 AM

I just puked a little.

JetDoc 03-12-2016 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by riel39 (Post 2087358)

Coming to a mainline cockpit near you!!

Chimpy 03-12-2016 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by riel39 (Post 2087358)
Tool of the day...

http://m.imgur.com/a/CsBIJ

Wow, that's embarassing

Justdoinmyjob 03-12-2016 11:29 AM

"BLAAARGH!!"

Ok, I feel better now. Where's the mouthwash?

tigerd 03-12-2016 11:37 AM

Does this dude wear TWO watches? One on each arm? Or does he change it up?

Justdoinmyjob 03-12-2016 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by tigerd (Post 2087518)
Does this dude wear TWO watches? One on each arm? Or does he change it up?

Maybe he wears three. So she can tell how long it been. :eek:

Bigwing 03-12-2016 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2085205)
Apparently, the Citadel doesn't teach reading for comprehension.


Yet they have graduated two of the most accomplished authors in America.

f10a 03-12-2016 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by tigerd (Post 2087518)
Does this dude wear TWO watches? One on each arm? Or does he change it up?

No, the tool flipped the pic horizontally to make it appear he's in the right seat. Notice the circuit breaker letters behind him!

Definitely an ultra tool.

tigerd 03-12-2016 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by f10a (Post 2087533)
No, the tool flipped the pic horizontally to make it appear he's in the right seat. Notice the circuit breaker letters behind him!

Definitely an ultra tool.

You are correct sir. Notice his hair goes the opposite direction too. Thanks for pointing that out. He is a sly dude. If he ever gets hired at a major can everyone do me a favor and let me know. Would like to avoid that experience.

Vital Signs 03-12-2016 01:36 PM

Suddenly I am very glad I hardly ever fly on AA.

(No offense to the rest of you hard working respectable grown up pilots there)

NERD 03-12-2016 01:43 PM

And since he seems to like hashtags. He needs to add #douchbag

viper548 03-12-2016 01:55 PM

Is he Piedmont or PSA?

Packrat 03-12-2016 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by Bigwing (Post 2087528)
Yet they have graduated two of the most accomplished authors in America.

Apparently neither of them frequent APC.

f10a 03-12-2016 02:39 PM

A quick glance at one of the numerous "pilot" hashtags on Instagram is quite alarming.. The sheer number of millenial ultra dooshes with a selfie stick in the cockpit is off the charts. And I'm seeing a trend with these tools in replacing their narcissistic selfie stick with a drone to following their movements, edit their fancy look at me video, dub in some trendy edm tune, and upload it to the plethora of social media sites to collect "likes".

80ktsClamp 03-12-2016 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by riel39 (Post 2087358)

It says in one of the earlier posts he's a newly qualified LCA at his airline. Yowza!

Flubber 03-12-2016 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by viper548 (Post 2087586)
Is he Piedmont or PSA?

Blue Streak. (PSA wasn't enough characters... urg.)

Justdoinmyjob 03-12-2016 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2087603)
Apparently neither of them frequent APC.

No internet were Pat is.

captjns 03-12-2016 03:11 PM

There was true tool, one of many, at Miami Air... Former Director of Training. He uploaded his picture on a singles website while wearing a Captain's uniform. He was quoted "When I take off my uniform after a busy day of flying, I like to take my boat for a sail." which was in the picture behind him.

Now the funny thing of it all was this DB never flew the line, nor did he hold an ATP, nor flew anything larger than a Piper.

Also the biggest boat he owned was a Sea Doo. He truly earned the name Captain Sea Doo.

Dolphinflyer 03-12-2016 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by Vital Signs (Post 2087572)
Suddenly I am very glad I hardly ever fly on AA.

(No offense to the rest of you hard working respectable grown up pilots there)

Thanks for highlighting my problem with this little Douche.

He doesn't work for AA and isn't a AA pilot (not yet), yet wears verbiage that the general public might think he is. That eclipses all his little gel haired, selfie act and qualifies for TOTD, maybe even a runner up in the yearly semi-finals.

In over three decades of flying, I've run across nearly a dozen instances of commuter owned or affiliated claiming they are AA pilots in bars, in airports, on webpages and even to FA's onboard while traveling to an Eagle interview, yet I have never seen the same in reverse. (One even stood in my face repeating "I am AAL" while demanding first jumpseat priority of 5 guys on the jetbridge consisting of 3 AA, this Eagle guy and a Northwest pilot)

90% (or whatever #) should flow up without question. Great pilots and true professionals. The rest should get a serious evaluation and rejected if needed. I'm total civvy and I speak of the same clowns I couldn't stand as CFI's and in Part 135.

awax 03-12-2016 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer (Post 2087669)
Thanks for highlighting my problem with this little Douche.

He doesn't work for AA and isn't a AA pilot (not yet), yet wears verbiage that the general public might think he is. That eclipses all his little gel haired, selfie act and qualifies for TOTD, maybe even a runner up in the yearly semi-finals.

Because he's wearing an AA lanyard? You know AA hands those out at every job fair they attend and even gave a bunch of them to my kid's school for career day. The next thing you're going to tell us is that everyone wearing an NFL jersey doesn't actually play on an NFL team!? weak.

Of all the reasons this guy is TOTD, the lanyard isn't one of them (but it IS funny it's AA!) :)

PotatoChip 03-12-2016 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer (Post 2087669)
Thanks for highlighting my problem with this little Douche.

He doesn't work for AA and isn't a AA pilot (not yet), yet wears verbiage that the general public might think he is. That eclipses all his little gel haired, selfie act and qualifies for TOTD, maybe even a runner up in the yearly semi-finals.

In over three decades of flying, I've run across nearly a dozen instances of commuter owned or affiliated claiming they are AA pilots in bars, in airports, on webpages and even to FA's onboard while traveling to an Eagle interview, yet I have never seen the same in reverse. (One even stood in my face repeating "I am AAL" while demanding first jumpseat priority of 5 guys on the jetbridge consisting of 3 AA, this Eagle guy and a Northwest pilot)

90% (or whatever #) should flow up without question. Great pilots and true professionals. The rest should get a serious evaluation and rejected if needed. I'm total civvy and I speak of the same clowns I couldn't stand as CFI's and in Part 135.

Which is why we need one level of safety, one level of training and one level of hiring....

But they can't get that when scope has been sold. Until regionals disappear or regionals pay what a 76 seat jet captain and first officer should make, they are going to continue to be desperate for pilots, and this is the result.

Dolphinflyer 03-12-2016 04:44 PM

College or Pro team lanyard? A little different IMHO.

Maybe you're right, they don't matter. Try wearing an "Allah Is The One True God" lanyard on your next AWAC orbit and get back to us.

Potatoe Chip,

Dead on, totally agree.

Might be tough at times to weed out the problem children when Envoy crew manning protests, but if the flow up is the plan, there needs to be discipline.

I'll also admit that many senior guys probably wouldn't have wanted their early-late twenties past lives resurfaced on webpages today. Easy to throw stones while older I guess. The guy is young, it's a different world with cameras everywhere. Sux IMHO ;)

f10a 03-12-2016 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 2087675)
Because he's wearing an AA lanyard? You know AA hands those out at every job fair they attend and even gave a bunch of them to my kid's school for career day. The next thing you're going to tell us is that everyone wearing an NFL jersey doesn't actually play on an NFL team!? weak.

Of all the reasons this guy is TOTD, the lanyard isn't one of them (but it IS funny it's AA!) :)

Flew with a tool wearing a US NAVY lanyard. Every pic I saw of him showed the lanyard front row and center yet he was not even remotely in the military. Some people just have to fluff up their image at whatever cost.

Vital Signs 03-12-2016 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer (Post 2087669)
Thanks for highlighting my problem with this little Douche.

Glad i could help. :)

Maybe I will start wearing a United lanyard cause I fly out of Ohare

DrivinTheDash 03-14-2016 01:13 PM

Dolphin... If you have a problem with his lanyard, you might be better served to criticize the company rather than the pilot. At Piedmont, and it's reasonable to think the same could be true at PSA, the American Airlines lanyard (and the official USAirways lanyard before that) is supplied to the pilots as the only permissible lanyard to year; other lanyards, including sports teams, military, college, and blank, are forbidden. This came about after USAPA's failed "I'm on board" campaign several years ago. If there's one thing that definitely doesn't qualify as toolish, it's properly wearing the approved uniform.


Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer (Post 2087669)
Thanks for highlighting my problem with this little Douche.

He doesn't work for AA and isn't a AA pilot (not yet), yet wears verbiage that the general public might think he is. That eclipses all his little gel haired, selfie act and qualifies for TOTD, maybe even a runner up in the yearly semi-finals.


Originally Posted by awax (Post 2087675)
Because he's wearing an AA lanyard? You know AA hands those out at every job fair they attend and even gave a bunch of them to my kid's school for career day. The next thing you're going to tell us is that everyone wearing an NFL jersey doesn't actually play on an NFL team!? weak.

Of all the reasons this guy is TOTD, the lanyard isn't one of them (but it IS funny it's AA!) :)


Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer (Post 2087677)
College or Pro team lanyard? A little different IMHO.


Dolphinflyer 03-14-2016 02:03 PM

DD, if that's the case with the company handing them out to the regional partners, my apologies. I do blame the company and not gel hair boy in that case. ;)

Packrat 03-14-2016 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 2087626)
He truly earned the name Captain Sea Doo.

Now THAT is some funny stuff right there.

cardiomd 03-15-2016 05:25 PM

Holy cow. I thought that was a parody site of pilot-selfies. I would think his company would get after him for using enough hair gel to be a fire hazard.


Today's tool is one of "Mike's bubbas" who left their FFDO gun in the bathroom. The second tool is the janitor who took it to his locker.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2562472

But remember, kids, these self-declared heroes of the sky are our "last line of defense!" It is making you safer! :rolleyes:

say again 03-15-2016 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by cardiomd (Post 2089687)
Holy cow. I thought that was a parody site of pilot-selfies. I would think his company would get after him for using enough hair gel to be a fire hazard.


Today's tool is one of "Mike's bubbas" who left their FFDO gun in the bathroom. The second tool is the janitor who took it to his locker.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2562472

But remember, kids, these self-declared heroes of the sky are our "last line of defense!" It is making you safer! :rolleyes:

So you're going to lump all FFDO's based on this idiot? You make TOLD #3

Packrat 03-15-2016 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by say again (Post 2089691)
So you're going to lump all FFDO's based on this idiot?

Well, he isn't the first nor will he be the last. Its a program that attracts the worst Barney Fifes in aviation. The only thing FFDOs have prevented are airborne elephant stampedes.

say again 03-15-2016 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2089694)
Well, he isn't the first nor will he be the last. Its a program that attracts the worst Barney Fifes in aviation. The only thing FFDOs have prevented are airborne elephant stampedes.

I agree there are some bozo's, but not all are like this guy. I know a few that I trust 110% and wouldn't lump them in this category. Why we have the program is a completely different topic.

cardiomd 03-15-2016 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by say again (Post 2089691)
So you're going to lump all FFDO's based on this idiot? You make TOLD #3

But a highly trained "idiot" as many participants take great pains to point out!

It is a typical flawed lobby-fueled government program based on faulty logic, so the completely voluntary participants hold culpability. But I know YOU'D never leave your gun anywhere, say again. As the young people say, "play stupid games..."

I believe it is TOTD, TOTD. ;)

cardiomd 03-15-2016 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by say again (Post 2089698)
I agree there are some bozo's, but not all are like this guy. I know a few that I trust 110% and wouldn't lump them in this category. Why we have the program is a completely different topic.

No, they are the same topic. Nobody is perfect, and that is the point. We set ourselves up for failure by such an idiotic program. I consider myself very reliable, but I don't want a gun in a secured area, because of the things that can go wrong while I have other stuff to do and pay attention to. Similarly, I consider myself reliable, and I still use a checklist for many operations of flight. Humans can become distracted; dismissing the guy as "an idiot" doesn't solve the issue.

FFDO program defies common sense and a realistic assessment of the risks of the program against possible benefits. This kind of incident has happened before, and will happen again. Next time the gun may not be found by a benign janitor, which is what a lot of us have been saying for a long time.

SluggoC17 03-15-2016 06:01 PM

:rolleyes:Yawn.

Rolf 03-15-2016 07:31 PM

Cardio,
I know this is a difficult to understand, but a gun is a tool. So are fire extinguishers, crash axes and O2 masks. In my life I've had to use 2 of the 4 and I can't tell you how glad I was to have them available.
Math time! If agency x loses 10 guns per 100000 and agency y loses 5/100000, which agency is more "professional"?
No guns inside the secure area is what you want? Well, let's built a Maginot line again, worked great last time, right?
Can't believe I'm helping ruin a great thread like this.

Dolphinflyer 03-15-2016 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by cardiomd (Post 2089708)
I consider myself very reliable, but I don't want a gun in a secured area, because of the things that can go wrong while I have other stuff to do and pay attention to.


I don't want a gun in a secured area either. We are in total agreement. An example of this policy would be prison guards working amongst inmates.

The problem is the area aboard an aircraft or past security at any US airport cannot be considered "secure" in a sense to support your political objection to the FFDO program. It's just one of many statements you have made that offer nothing to the discussion of the program other than you don't like it.

Another problem is your insults towards aviators for whatever reason, have volunteered a significant amount of their personal time and some expense in order to provide another layer of security against a continuing threat. Most employed commercial pilots here could contribute to a 100 page thread on the shortcomings of aviation security, but can't and won't due to obvious security threats that exist today. Yet you still try to bait everyone with your insults.

As for my opinion? Like anything, the FFDO program isn't perfect. Probably all FFDO's understand a weapon isn't some lightsabre or a Darth Vader throat clutch that will stop the world in it's tracks. I am also not going to discuss these limitations with someone that has no training in the program, is not even cleared to work with someone in the program, has ZERO knowledge of any airline operation procedures and policies of the program or any other armed issue with commercial flying.

I've listened to your opinions, but have learned nothing. I've also listened to others with close involvement the program and weigh their opinion far more than yours. This group has included current and former FBI Agents including Hostage Rescue Team member, former military officers including Generals, former members of the Secret Service including Presidential and sniper team details, numerous other active and retired armed Federal Officers from various agencies and even a former Delta Force sniper.

Theses are people I've come into contact with that know the limitations but support the program.

cactusmike 03-15-2016 07:43 PM

Crikey, this is sounding like Einstein's definition of insanity. Please. Stop. Feeding. The. Trolls.

Maingear 03-15-2016 07:51 PM

My Tool of the Day nomination is people who come around posting in the airline pilot forums who are NOT airline pilots, then argue with them on top of it!

I don't go into doctor forums and argue with them.

It's the equivalent of showing up to a private party uninvited and getting into it with the guests.

Dolphinflyer 03-15-2016 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by cactusmike (Post 2089759)
Crikey, this is sounding like Einstein's definition of insanity. Please. Stop. Feeding. The. Trolls.


I confess, I'm guilty.
As a penance, on my next trip, I'll do three r/t's through the public TSA line along with 5 Hail Mary's.


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