Tool of the day
04-19-2012, 06:24 PM
#261
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Previous airline:
The Mensa society guy who does the entire interior preflight... his way. Whether you did it or not he does it again his way. While I was on the walk around I was startled by the spoilers raising, never seen that before? Then I come back into the cockpit and he informs me he called maintenance because the HYD SOV wouldn't close when he pulled the fire handle.
You pulled the what!?
The fire handles. When you pull the fire handles you should get a HYD SOV CLSD EICAS message and it didn't come up. He was right, it actually had failed. But man I was perplexed, why did you pull the handle?!
Maintenance gets on board, he explains it to them. They're confused, you pulled the what? So he explains it to them and explains how the airplane works. Lead balloon CRM there.
So they go outside and call their supervisor but then one of them runs over to the next plane and asks "you guys pull fire handles in your preflight checks?!?" No. No we don't. The supervisor comes on board, hangs out while his guys are pulling panels off and in a professional way he starts with some probing questions. As he can tell the Captain is ultra sensitive about Captains authority. He asks how he figured out the HYD SOV was closed. He repeats his flow and pulls the handle. At that moment the other mechanics were elbow deep into the hydraulic junk and a lever moved and about injured the mechanic or worse. Mechanic goes ballistic and an airplane full of 50 passengers got to hear what the mechanic was thinking thanks to the supervisors walkie-talkie. He was actually yelling at the supervisor though. The supervisor just calmly radios back "it wasn't me, it was the Captain..." To which 50 passengers got to hear that their Captain wasn't fit to fly via many many colorful metaphors.
That was the start of the trip.
Between being unable to get him through customs without an interrogation to his hand flying at altitude with the FD's off, I have to say, I was worn out.
The Mensa society guy who does the entire interior preflight... his way. Whether you did it or not he does it again his way. While I was on the walk around I was startled by the spoilers raising, never seen that before? Then I come back into the cockpit and he informs me he called maintenance because the HYD SOV wouldn't close when he pulled the fire handle.
You pulled the what!?
The fire handles. When you pull the fire handles you should get a HYD SOV CLSD EICAS message and it didn't come up. He was right, it actually had failed. But man I was perplexed, why did you pull the handle?!
Maintenance gets on board, he explains it to them. They're confused, you pulled the what? So he explains it to them and explains how the airplane works. Lead balloon CRM there.
So they go outside and call their supervisor but then one of them runs over to the next plane and asks "you guys pull fire handles in your preflight checks?!?" No. No we don't. The supervisor comes on board, hangs out while his guys are pulling panels off and in a professional way he starts with some probing questions. As he can tell the Captain is ultra sensitive about Captains authority. He asks how he figured out the HYD SOV was closed. He repeats his flow and pulls the handle. At that moment the other mechanics were elbow deep into the hydraulic junk and a lever moved and about injured the mechanic or worse. Mechanic goes ballistic and an airplane full of 50 passengers got to hear what the mechanic was thinking thanks to the supervisors walkie-talkie. He was actually yelling at the supervisor though. The supervisor just calmly radios back "it wasn't me, it was the Captain..." To which 50 passengers got to hear that their Captain wasn't fit to fly via many many colorful metaphors.
That was the start of the trip.
Between being unable to get him through customs without an interrogation to his hand flying at altitude with the FD's off, I have to say, I was worn out.
04-19-2012, 06:38 PM
#262
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Previous corporate:
New Captain hires his wife as the cabin attendant, when they go to an overnight they dump the FO (who is really the only person in charge and knows what's going on) and they take the rental car for the entire time they're there.
Same guy, boss says he wants to leave at 2. He and his wife show up at... 2. Boss showed up earlier.
Same guy, charter company will provide crew meals if asked. Decent corporate crew meal stuff, but really a nice sandwich box. He orders filet Mignon, ****ed when they don't deliver it.
Different guy, teaching spoon fed ground school at corporate charter operation. Asks airline pilot turned corporate pilot, when do you not have to have a destination alternate? Pilot answers, well, 1-2-3 rule and gets interrupted. "Welcome to the big boys kid, we don't use the 1-2-3 rule," says salty know it all.
They didn't there, tis true, but Delta uses the 1-2-3 rule for IFR/NO ALTN required on domestic flight ops and I would consider it to be a "big boy."
New Captain hires his wife as the cabin attendant, when they go to an overnight they dump the FO (who is really the only person in charge and knows what's going on) and they take the rental car for the entire time they're there.
Same guy, boss says he wants to leave at 2. He and his wife show up at... 2. Boss showed up earlier.
Same guy, charter company will provide crew meals if asked. Decent corporate crew meal stuff, but really a nice sandwich box. He orders filet Mignon, ****ed when they don't deliver it.
Different guy, teaching spoon fed ground school at corporate charter operation. Asks airline pilot turned corporate pilot, when do you not have to have a destination alternate? Pilot answers, well, 1-2-3 rule and gets interrupted. "Welcome to the big boys kid, we don't use the 1-2-3 rule," says salty know it all.
They didn't there, tis true, but Delta uses the 1-2-3 rule for IFR/NO ALTN required on domestic flight ops and I would consider it to be a "big boy."
04-19-2012, 06:40 PM
#263
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I am truly honored by the participation in the thread I started. Have wanted to do this for years, but thought some of our thinner skinned brethren would be offended. Because regardless of political, religious, or our many other differences we are a lot alike and can find common ground in some areas. It's the 10% that make the tool catagory, whether its being a ******* or just wierd. If it were not for them what/who would we talk about enroute, over beers, or here. So, tonights tools are to the two pilots in uniform at the Bloomington, Mn TGIFs having dinner in the bar. Oh, did I forget both wearing long sleeve shirts and the capts hair slicked back like one of the characters in Grease.
04-19-2012, 06:43 PM
#264
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Originally Posted by NERD
I am truly honored by the participation in the thread I started. Have wanted to do this for years, but thought some of our thinner skinned brethren would be offended. Because regardless of political, religious, or our many other differences we are a lot alike and can find common ground in some areas. It's the 10% that make the tool catagory, whether its being a ******* or just wierd. If it were not for them what/who would we talk about enroute, over beers, or here. So, tonights tools are to the two pilots in uniform at the Bloomington, Mn TGIFs having dinner in the bar. Oh, did I forget both wearing long sleeve shirts and the capts hair slicked back like one of the characters in Grease.
04-19-2012, 06:53 PM
#266
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Oh yeah. And IDs to boot. Must be some kind of freight dogs, as the waiter says they've been here all week. It's a good look and the chicks dig it.
QUOTE=forgot to bid;1172317]Positive they're airline? Do they have the epaulets on?[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=forgot to bid;1172317]Positive they're airline? Do they have the epaulets on?[/QUOTE]
04-19-2012, 06:54 PM
#267
Sho me da money!
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Capt Ugly, was by far the ugliest female on earth. But as a new and happy FO on the Brazilla for a now defunct WestAir I was happy to be moving up. Third turn of the day SBA-LAX. She got hungry. Decided it was time for lunch on a 20 minute turn. She comes flying up the stairs right before door closure on a 90 degree summer day with a steaming container of brussell sprouts and baked salmon! TOOL!!!
04-19-2012, 06:55 PM
#268
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Previous airline:
The Mensa society guy who does the entire interior preflight... his way. Whether you did it or not he does it again his way. While I was on the walk around I was startled by the spoilers raising, never seen that before? Then I come back into the cockpit and he informs me he called maintenance because the HYD SOV wouldn't close when he pulled the fire handle.
You pulled the what!?
The fire handles. When you pull the fire handles you should get a HYD SOV CLSD EICAS message and it didn't come up. He was right, it actually had failed. But man I was perplexed, why did you pull the handle?!
Maintenance gets on board, he explains it to them. They're confused, you pulled the what? So he explains it to them and explains how the airplane works. Lead balloon CRM there.
So they go outside and call their supervisor but then one of them runs over to the next plane and asks "you guys pull fire handles in your preflight checks?!?" No. No we don't. The supervisor comes on board, hangs out while his guys are pulling panels off and in a professional way he starts with some probing questions. As he can tell the Captain is ultra sensitive about Captains authority. He asks how he figured out the HYD SOV was closed. He repeats his flow and pulls the handle. At that moment the other mechanics were elbow deep into the hydraulic junk and a lever moved and about injured the mechanic or worse. Mechanic goes ballistic and an airplane full of 50 passengers got to hear what the mechanic was thinking thanks to the supervisors walkie-talkie. He was actually yelling at the supervisor though. The supervisor just calmly radios back "it wasn't me, it was the Captain..." To which 50 passengers got to hear that their Captain wasn't fit to fly via many many colorful metaphors.
That was the start of the trip.
Between being unable to get him through customs without an interrogation to his hand flying at altitude with the FD's off, I have to say, I was worn out.
The Mensa society guy who does the entire interior preflight... his way. Whether you did it or not he does it again his way. While I was on the walk around I was startled by the spoilers raising, never seen that before? Then I come back into the cockpit and he informs me he called maintenance because the HYD SOV wouldn't close when he pulled the fire handle.
You pulled the what!?
The fire handles. When you pull the fire handles you should get a HYD SOV CLSD EICAS message and it didn't come up. He was right, it actually had failed. But man I was perplexed, why did you pull the handle?!
Maintenance gets on board, he explains it to them. They're confused, you pulled the what? So he explains it to them and explains how the airplane works. Lead balloon CRM there.
So they go outside and call their supervisor but then one of them runs over to the next plane and asks "you guys pull fire handles in your preflight checks?!?" No. No we don't. The supervisor comes on board, hangs out while his guys are pulling panels off and in a professional way he starts with some probing questions. As he can tell the Captain is ultra sensitive about Captains authority. He asks how he figured out the HYD SOV was closed. He repeats his flow and pulls the handle. At that moment the other mechanics were elbow deep into the hydraulic junk and a lever moved and about injured the mechanic or worse. Mechanic goes ballistic and an airplane full of 50 passengers got to hear what the mechanic was thinking thanks to the supervisors walkie-talkie. He was actually yelling at the supervisor though. The supervisor just calmly radios back "it wasn't me, it was the Captain..." To which 50 passengers got to hear that their Captain wasn't fit to fly via many many colorful metaphors.
That was the start of the trip.
Between being unable to get him through customs without an interrogation to his hand flying at altitude with the FD's off, I have to say, I was worn out.
04-19-2012, 06:58 PM
#269
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Originally Posted by NERD
Oh yeah. And IDs to boot. Must be some kind of freight dogs, as the waiter says they've been here all week. It's a good look and the chicks dig it.
QUOTE=forgot to bid;1172317]Positive they're airline? Do they have the epaulets on?
QUOTE=forgot to bid;1172317]Positive they're airline? Do they have the epaulets on?
So, are you saying the pilot uniform look gets play in TGIF? What kind of chick does it attract?
From what I've seen in TGIF, it's best to go in shorts and a t-shirt.
04-19-2012, 07:10 PM
#270
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Depends on the TGIF. Some, I'm positive that Narita whale capt sheik would work. You know the look. Members Only jacket with running shoes or if feeling really sexy some top siders.
QUOTE=newKnow;117232/QUOTE]
So, are you saying the pilot uniform look gets play in TGIF? What kind of chick does it attract?
From what I've seen in TGIF, it's best to go in shorts and a t-shirt.[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=newKnow;117232/QUOTE]
So, are you saying the pilot uniform look gets play in TGIF? What kind of chick does it attract?
From what I've seen in TGIF, it's best to go in shorts and a t-shirt.
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