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12-10-2012, 08:40 AM
#3452
Runs with scissors
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
Posts: 7,723
Speaking of which, long time ago I'm in the right seat of a 757, going BOS-FLL or such. About half way there one of the F/A's asks to come up front for a short break. "Sure, come on up."
So she's up there for about 5 minutes, we are pointing out the coastline, other airplanes, the magenta line, etc. and she leaves. About 30 seconds later...it's starts to stink, and I don't mean just a little, but a huge stink! Something your 12yr. old son would be proud of in a "Pull my finger" prank.
I look at the Capt. and say, "Jeesus, what did you EAT last night??!"
And he looks at me and says, "I thought it was YOU!"
Then the light bulb came on....we had been "Crop Dusted" by the F/A!!
They are soooo sneaky! The funniest part was, she was a teeny, tiny girl, could not have weighed a hundred pounds. We never expected such a big stink could come out of that little girl, but there it was!
And it wasn't MINE! I Swear!
So she's up there for about 5 minutes, we are pointing out the coastline, other airplanes, the magenta line, etc. and she leaves. About 30 seconds later...it's starts to stink, and I don't mean just a little, but a huge stink! Something your 12yr. old son would be proud of in a "Pull my finger" prank.
I look at the Capt. and say, "Jeesus, what did you EAT last night??!"
And he looks at me and says, "I thought it was YOU!"
Then the light bulb came on....we had been "Crop Dusted" by the F/A!!
They are soooo sneaky! The funniest part was, she was a teeny, tiny girl, could not have weighed a hundred pounds. We never expected such a big stink could come out of that little girl, but there it was!
And it wasn't MINE! I Swear!
12-10-2012, 08:56 AM
#3454
Junior Senior
Joined APC: Feb 2012
Position: Whiskey Papa
Posts: 2,850
Originally Posted by Timbo
Speaking of which, long time ago I'm in the right seat of a 757, going BOS-FLL or such. About half way there one of the F/A's asks to come up front for a short break. "Sure, come on up."
So she's up there for about 5 minutes, we are pointing out the coastline, other airplanes, the magenta line, etc. and she leaves. About 30 seconds later...it's starts to stink, and I don't mean just a little, but a huge stink! Something your 12yr. old son would be proud of in a "Pull my finger" prank.
I look at the Capt. and say, "Jeesus, what did you EAT last night??!"
And he looks at me and says, "I thought it was YOU!"
Then the light bulb came on....we had been "Crop Dusted" by the F/A!!
They are soooo sneaky! The funniest part was, she was a teeny, tiny girl, could not have weighed a hundred pounds. We never expected such a big stink could come out of that little girl, but there it was!
And it wasn't MINE! I Swear!
So she's up there for about 5 minutes, we are pointing out the coastline, other airplanes, the magenta line, etc. and she leaves. About 30 seconds later...it's starts to stink, and I don't mean just a little, but a huge stink! Something your 12yr. old son would be proud of in a "Pull my finger" prank.
I look at the Capt. and say, "Jeesus, what did you EAT last night??!"
And he looks at me and says, "I thought it was YOU!"
Then the light bulb came on....we had been "Crop Dusted" by the F/A!!
They are soooo sneaky! The funniest part was, she was a teeny, tiny girl, could not have weighed a hundred pounds. We never expected such a big stink could come out of that little girl, but there it was!
And it wasn't MINE! I Swear!
12-10-2012, 11:48 AM
#3456
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 8,898
Originally Posted by Senior Skipper
Those are probably the lifers whose ego prevents them from moving up because they'd have to be FO's again.
12-10-2012, 11:56 AM
#3457
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 8,898
Originally Posted by Sink r8
They sweat a while, but some of them take it real well, for a while. They take on the role of the subservient FO, which is just winding the douche-bag Captain spring inside. Beware of the FO that's sweating profusely with a weird nasty grin isntead of a smile.
I think doucheness is a personality trait, and so deeply engrained that a brief sentence as a FO won't cure the itch, just make them more agressive. Just look at some of the super-senior guys you might fly with. The real young guys that were quick upgrades can be either apreciative of their good fortune, or total entitled pricks that feel no pain but their own. Either way, their fast advancement becomes a personality mutliplier.
This is where the length of the mainline FO position becomes critical. You can only fight your own nature so long. I assume this is why we at Delta like to not upgrade right now. By the time you finally get there, you're a super nice guy (or you just snapped, or you dropped from a coronary event in your tenth year). At upgrade, I assume you're so worn out you don't even have the energy to be an [deleted] anymore.
Throw in a little furlough for character development... Say, I must be one hell of a nice guy!
I think doucheness is a personality trait, and so deeply engrained that a brief sentence as a FO won't cure the itch, just make them more agressive. Just look at some of the super-senior guys you might fly with. The real young guys that were quick upgrades can be either apreciative of their good fortune, or total entitled pricks that feel no pain but their own. Either way, their fast advancement becomes a personality mutliplier.
This is where the length of the mainline FO position becomes critical. You can only fight your own nature so long. I assume this is why we at Delta like to not upgrade right now. By the time you finally get there, you're a super nice guy (or you just snapped, or you dropped from a coronary event in your tenth year). At upgrade, I assume you're so worn out you don't even have the energy to be an [deleted] anymore.
Throw in a little furlough for character development... Say, I must be one hell of a nice guy!
12-10-2012, 07:09 PM
#3460
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: More Drag
Posts: 447
(Notwithstanding a few rogue captains out there):
Airline FO's, like captains, need to embrace their place in the world, and when the left seat becomes available, bid it. Until then, ***** and moan all you want, but its better to find out what your left seat pilots' weakness is (i.e. boating, surfing, fishing, skiing, etc) and exploit it. You'll get a smoother trip if you suck it up just a bit during the first flight and make some headway with some thoughtful inquiries about who your flying with during cruise. You never know, you might be free-lancing the airplane and hoisting up cold ones at the bar later (his tab) before you know it. It's a better strategy than playing the hard line "you can't push me around" attitude that will make for a long trip. Read the book "how to win friends and influence people".
Airline FO's, like captains, need to embrace their place in the world, and when the left seat becomes available, bid it. Until then, ***** and moan all you want, but its better to find out what your left seat pilots' weakness is (i.e. boating, surfing, fishing, skiing, etc) and exploit it. You'll get a smoother trip if you suck it up just a bit during the first flight and make some headway with some thoughtful inquiries about who your flying with during cruise. You never know, you might be free-lancing the airplane and hoisting up cold ones at the bar later (his tab) before you know it. It's a better strategy than playing the hard line "you can't push me around" attitude that will make for a long trip. Read the book "how to win friends and influence people".
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